'Str8 acting' and 'camp'

I want to hear your opinions

 

Masculine vs Feminine

Whenever I hear a guy say: "I'm gay, but I dont like the faggy ones" That just says to me that along with just about everyone else in society they are more worried about what everyone else is going to think if they are seen socialising with an effeminate one. yes they might be annoying to some, but thats never the sole reason.

That along with the denial thing the rest of society does. Effeminate gay guys usually attract more attention from bi guys throughout there lifetime than other gay guys. Blame them even though most of the time they are getting hit on by bi guys, often in secret so the bi guys wives /girlfriends dont find out.

I love the effeminate ones, they are a load of fun, they love me, usually attach themselves to the funnest girls and are great at weeding out sooky secret bi guys. But when it comes to nooky, I need as masculine as I can get.

Guys, both straight and some gay guys do the judgemental thing about the effeminate ones, call them names etc to try make out they are a man, and yet are too afraid to go near them.

The male ego is a bizarre and complicated thing

 

I think "straight acting" should be called masculine. It's insulting because it implies that gays can't be masculine. But I don't think there's anything wrong with preferring it.

 

thats some BS right there. I don't like the faggy ones and its not because I am afraid of what people will think of me by socializing with them. I have "faggy" friends, but I am sexually attracted to the more masculine ones. The girly ones are just a turn off for me, but I still hang out with them.

 

^^^

Agreed, but you'd probably be the exception rather than the rule. If you have effeminate gay friends, then cool.

In my experience though most of the time its what I said before

 

i dunno i like a guy that acts like a guy u know i mean if a guy is nice and nice lookin it dosent matter all that much but i feel that if i wanted a girl i would be with a girl i want a guy a man so act like one especialy if you wanna get on top cause it isint happening if your girly

 

I just want people to be themselves. I don't think it's appropriate to have an opinion on something like that.

 

'Straight-acting' needs to be replaced with somthing else, I'm not straight acting, I actually am like this.

Camp gays annoy me aswell, I'm friends with a few but there's no sexual attraction at all, it's also what a whole load of people automatically assume your like if you're gay and I guess I kind of blame camp people for perpetuating that belief, even though it's not their fault, it's everyone else's for ignoring the masculine gays.

 

Yes, I agree that it is insulting to masculine gay men who are tagged "straight acting." It is not acting, it is just how I present myself.

If you have a cock and balls and come off like Joan Crawford, then you might be considered "effeminate acting" but I am sure gay men like that are also comfortable in their own skin and it is not an act, just how they present themselves.

Picture a landscape with brown earth and hard, steely gray rocks jutting out of it. It would probably be sorta bleak if not for the delicate little green plants and flowers that grow around those rocks. Any landscape can use a little contrast to make both the rocks and the flowers stand out.

 

Picture a landscape with brown earth and hard, steely gray rocks jutting out of it. It would probably be sorta bleak if not for the delicate little green plants and flowers that grow around those rocks. Any landscape can use a little contrast to make both the rocks and the flowers stand out. [/QUOTE]

thats so sweet lol

 

how come the quote is different?

 

i dunno how to work the ..... thing? lol srry

 

LOL, maybe you wanna go with someone from this century

I'm not even exactly sure who that is, she's and actress right?

 

Joan Crawford was effeminate? :svengo:

Aww. That really is nice. Yeah, people should be themselves, not act like anything, and they usually are. And I'd never give up one side for the other, I need both in the world.

 

Are you really 37? And gay? I'm 34, and you should have at least seen Mommie Dearest, like myself. I was only 6 years old when it came out, and I still remember it like it was yesterday.

"I am not one of your faaaans!"

 

'it is just how i present myself' and the tagged 'str8 acting'

Jestinburg said camp gays annoy him because they give the idea to the rest of the world that all gay guys are like this (you do have a point but only because most 'str8 acting' guys are in the closet) but its still no excuse to be homophobic, and Shale you said its insulting to be tagged as 'str8 acting' because its not acting, its just how you present yourself which is a contradiction...

Presenting yourself is acting! and 'str8 acting' of course is acting aswell, you see everybody acts, its called a personality! its how you want to be perceived in front of others, its just most people have learnt how to act so well that its essentially their 'natural' personality and it comes very natural to them!

Take a random example here, your hated, people dont like you, your behavor, your attitude and your general self is not liked by anyone. You move to a new town remembering very well what the people in the old town did not like about you! Are you now going to 'act' in the same way you did before? or are you going to change your behaviour and the way you want to be perceived by others! Of course you will change and therfore 'act' different, likeable ect... until you become so used to it that it just comes 'natural' and as Shale said 'its just how i present myself'

 

While I can see your point, I think it is splitting hairs to analyze/differentiate what is one's natural state and what is learned behavior.

Of course we all learn our affect, from family and community. I was raised by moslty heterosexual rednecks. To "act" differently than that affect would be an "act," whereas my demeanor as a male is determined by those role models.

I am not locked into that role as is my more traditional redneck family. I can express affection toward men, I can show a feminine side at times while in my urban enviro that I would hesitate to do in parts of Mississippi.

So, my current "natural" affect is perhaps a bit of an act from my expected macho affect that works best in certain environs.

See, should have just let my initial comment go at face value. Over analyzing can dig deep holes all over the place and you still come back to the original premise, only mucked up.

 

Sexual orientation is non-rational(irrational?). There are lots of folks who think it's strange, "inappropriate", weird, sinful,etc, for guys to like guys instead of girls. Others are attracted to big feet and licking smelley arm pits, which many people would find to be major turnoffs. If some gay guys prefer St8-acting guys as sex partners or even friends, it's basically their thing--not a matter of political incorrectness (assuming, of course, they don't go around putting down "femmes").

 

Sorry, cant say I was much of a fan, knew she was one of those 1940s actresses, could really picture her face, and no sorry, dont think I'v eever seen Mommie Dearest.

I remeber Wizard of OZ and thinking how cool it was Dorothy carrying around Toto in that handbag/basket, decades before Paris Hilton copied it


EDIT: I'm totally thinking of someone else I think, Joan Crawford? I could Google but I'm at a net cafe and about to run out of time

 

i freekin love mommy dearest but i found the daughter unattractive