Swine flu

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  1. Magical mystery tourguide

    Magical mystery tourguide Senior Member

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    Well most of you have probably heard about it, it seems pretty serious to me, not like SARS or that other avian flu bullshit, this has spread VERY quickly and already 100 dead in that short amount of time. Thoughts?
     
  2. marksup123

    marksup123 I'm a girl!

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    seizedbyanger is going to KILL you.

    beware.
     
  3. marksup123

    marksup123 I'm a girl!

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    and also, i believe that the only people who have died from this live in countries with poor health care.

    if you catch it and you're in the US, or any other country with a decent system, you'll probably be fine.
     
  4. lawnboy3

    lawnboy3 Member

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    all i can say is stay away from the cops.

    pork=death.
     
  5. Geneity

    Geneity self-proclaimed advocate

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    lululululu



    Seriously though. I'm already sick of hearing about this...
     
  6. Reverend Green

    Reverend Green Member

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    no such thing.

    How dare you believe what the media has to say
     
  7. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    It might not be the healthcare systems value, only Mexico has any substantial, about 2,000 people have been hospitalized with it in Mexico, and there's probably more since a lot of people don't go to hospitals in Mexico, but only 120 people died, there's only been a few cases in other places so statistically no one should have died yet outside of Mexico.

    I want to remind people of a for some reason very forgotten piece of history, the 1918 flu outbreak killed twice as many people as WW1 did

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1918_flu#Mortality

    The global mortality rate from the 1918/1919 pandemic is not known, but is estimated at 2.5 to 5% of those who were infected died. Note this does not mean that 2.5-5% of the human population died; with 20% or more of the world population suffering from the disease to some extent, a case-fatality ratio this high would mean that about 0.5-1% ( ≈50 million) of the whole population died. [15] Influenza may have killed as many as 25 million in its first 25 weeks. Older estimates say it killed 40–50 million people[3] while current estimates say 50 million to 100 million people worldwide were killed.[16] This pandemic has been described as "the greatest medical holocaust in history" and may have killed more people than the Black Death.[17]

    In the U.S., about 28% of the population suffered, and 500,000 to 675,000 died.[19]

    Adjust for population ratio, you'd get about 1,500,000 to almost 2 million deaths. Adjust for better medicine, take it down to a million or so. Think if over a million people in the US died of the flu in like 4 months, we'd all be scared shitless
     
  8. prissbaby

    prissbaby creepy

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    for the record, I haven't had a voice since Saturday... slept all day yesterday, and today have had pretty intense body aches.

    there were a bunch of people in Queens, NY who recently were diagnosed with this swine flu nonsense.. and I go up there about twice a month, last time being last weekend.

    I think I should go to the doctors tomorrow
     
  9. Popularity

    Popularity Senior Member

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    I'd rather go out with a meteorite or something.
     
  10. Chronic_Glass_Masta

    Chronic_Glass_Masta I like turtles

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    I guess know one has pointed they have a fuck load of vaccines for said flus that there not stocking untill it gets more serious. Plus all 46 cases from the united states healed up fine. And 12 in canada had it and where fine. This is a small outbreak of a disease thathas bin around for ages and thatthe media has completely blown out of porportion. So everyone calm your horses
     
  11. DazedGypsy

    DazedGypsy fire

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    There is no vaccine.
    Not all confirmed cases have fully recovered.
    There are plenty of other suspected cases in the states, and more severe illness and deaths are expected in the future. This came out of the mouth of CDC's acting director as well as state health officials.
    Check your facts before you post, please.
     
  12. fuzz_acid_flowers

    fuzz_acid_flowers Aqueou§ Transmi§§ion

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    Yeah that would be kinda cool.....but not really at the same time
     
  13. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    Wrong, an outbreak spreading this quick proves it's a particulary agressive form of the influenza virus that is immune to our general current flu vaccines, while a vaccine helps this strain obviously has good attack against it and the course of treatment is not a vaccine, it's anti-viral drugs, doesn't cure the virus, just lessens the symptoms. And the other part of it is the flu is not normally deadly, this strain is oddly deadly.

    Again, this is what the power of the flu can do
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1918_flu#Mortality

    There's an epedemic every 40-50 years and we're due for one and it didn't wind up to be avian flu.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8021827.stm

     
  14. Chronic_Glass_Masta

    Chronic_Glass_Masta I like turtles

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    Actually there is a vaccine, I read about it before the outbreak, look it up I can't remember the name. Most of the suspected who have traveled in mexico in the lady 3 weeks an have a common cold. And although they haven't fully healed the are under quarintine and most symptoms have dissapeared. Again, you seemlike most panicking people who hear the media exxagerate it to death and go around telling people how screwed we are. I'm personally more worried about a plane landing on my house this
     
  15. lawnboy3

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    donnie darko like.

    one of my fav's.
     
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    im still waiting on my lab work but I hope Im a confirmed case in PA of the Swine flu.. I should know tomorrow when I go back to the clinic for a MRI.
     
  17. Chronic_Glass_Masta

    Chronic_Glass_Masta I like turtles

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    Look, I'm not trying to deny the fact that this is a problem I'm just pointing out that must of the shit we hear is from the media, the real pandemic : p
     
  18. lawnboy3

    lawnboy3 Member

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    good antibiotics...
     
  19. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    But anywhere you hear something from that isn't word of mouth is the media.

    But no really it's not a big deal yet, but it has the potential to be a huge issue, especially if we suffered a world-wine flu pandemic in the middle of the worst economic decline since the depression, it would take so many years to recover economically alone
     
  20. drew5147

    drew5147 Dingledodie

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