The Bible is true?

I had someone trying to defend that the Bible is 100% accurate. I found this person did not know what they were talking about. It infuriates me to think that people believe everything that the Bible says.
Does anyone else agree?

 

this was discussed in another topic. i agree, it's stupid to think that people would just so blindly believe in something so much, especially when they history of the book is kinda shaky.

 

in certain respects it's handy for archeological mapping. i enjoy reading the biblical archeology review and the way they put ancient locations within the context of the bible. i like to compare these with other archeology magazines covering the same topic. though it's been a while, i've been too broke for a subscription recently.

 

The Bible was inspired by God and is a 100% accurate. But you guys wouldn't know anything about this; because your too busy making negative comments about the Bible without any knowledge of it.

What do you know about the prophetic proof, the archaelogical proof, the scientifical accuracy in the Bible??


Proof of the Bible...

http://r-campbell34.tripod.com/proof

 

*Looks at Bible, reads about all the prophecies, sees the ones that have happend, sees the ones that are happening now, and knows the ones that have not yet come to pass*


Contrary to popular belief, Christians don't just blindly put faith into a book. They read the Bible and they feel the presence of God. They see the prophecies being fulfilled. That is why I find the statement about blind faith so amusing. Christians see their prayers being answered, they see miracles being performed in their lives. They talk to God, and God answers. If nothing ever happend, do you think people would continue to believe? If God's promises weren't fulfilled, then we wouldn't have Christians today.

 

I totally agree with you, i think some things are based on real events, but to actually believe adam made eve with a rib is moronic.

 

-God has never changed. The same God that is able to answer our prayers was the same God that created the universe and thus Adam and Eve. You look at God like He is human. Like He is confined to human capabilities. But in reality God is way above our abilities.

 

considering this story from a literary angle, i think it's sweet and pretty deep. god wants men and women to be companions dependent upon one another. how better to do this than to create them from one body? then, the choice of the rib is pretty nice touch, because it's from the region that protects his heart. pretty nice. i like it. do i buy it? not really.

 

And KC, I think yoiu have the right idea, stories with symbolism and morality that aren't really SUPPOSED to be taken literally.



Quote: The same God that is able to answer our prayers was the same God that created the universe and thus Adam and Eve


hahahahashahahaha

 

Good luck! As you can see from some of these posts, hard core bible beaters will keep you going in circles with twisted logic.

Try to take an intellectual walk down their path and you just find your shoes covered in dogma.
The stories of the bible are based on actual events so they see those connections as "proof".
All of the prophecies are inspired by events that continually happen through history, or are self fulfilling prophecies. So, nothing earth shattering in them.
I use to know the bible well, years ago. As at teen I planned to be a preacher.

 

First you must understand how it was written...Is it the same book as it was when it was written? I say no. It was originally written in Hebrew and Greek. Since both of these societies relied on oral tradition, most of the stories were orally handed down and we know what happens there. Then it was rewritten and edited by the Vatican, OT and NT that is...the OT in Judaism pretty much hasnt changed. The Pope only wanted certain things in the final version of the BOOK so he threw many of the books out...and never to be seen again (why is this? I wonder). Pope Pious XIII I think it was. THEN it was adopted by the protestants and edited AGAIN! And since then has been rewritten and translated and edited a million times over. So if someone is trying to convince me that the BOOK is straight from the horses mouth, so to say, then they better do some detailed research cuz just telling me that you are right and I am wrong and will go to hell just isnt gonna cut it over here pal!

 

JohnnyX,

Have you ever heard of the dead sea scrolls??

 

Just because fables are old does not make them inherently true. the story of Noah dates back to Egyptian times, Hammerabi's tale, does that make it any more likely to be true.....no.

When it comes down to it, the only way to believe that the stories are absolutely true is on faith.

I would like a creationist to explain why geologic time doesn't match up to the bibles timeline? Which one should I believe, one based on science, or one based on far fetched rather primitive stories, edited and re-edited for political purposes.


Each religion thinks there bible, or koran, or whatever else is absolutely true too. Guess what, only 1 can be correct, and its overwhelmingly likely that none are!

 

Precisely what I was getting at in a similar thread! The Bible, along with the religion tied to it, has gone through many a revision in its long history. The Old Testament was essentially taken from the Jews' scriptures, obviously, and the New Testament was compiled of scriptures hand-picked by the mainstream Church leaders, at the time they used it to counter their main competition, the Gnostic Christians (whom the Church was quick to stomp out of existance when it finally acquired power in the Roman Empire).

Even if any of the statistics campbell presents are true, they are still only circumstantial, and while they point to the very probable fact that many Bible stories are historically based, they do not prove the presumptuous idea that the Bible is completely infallible and complete fact, especially given the revisionist tendencies of Church history.

 

Yes Ive heard of the DEAD SEA SCROLLS....but I also know that the books that were ousted from the vatican soon after the invention of the press when the pope decided that the bible was to be printed and distributed. After the disclusion of the lost books they were never to be seen again and their location has been kept a secret by the vatican. Why would these books be so secret? What didn't he want us to read? The bible was written by MEN not GOD!!!!! This is a fact. Not only that now the WORD OF GOD is written by a machine!!!! That is soooooooo HOLY! It is a book written by men who make mistakes so I take from it what I feel is useful to help me be a better person and to understand the culture of Hebrews and their Folklore and a picture of Palestine (Yes, Palestine) under the control of the Roman Empire. Not to mention the teachings of a very enlightened human being that I admire very much.

 

"The Freedom of the Press belongs to those who own one."
-A.J. Liebling

 

i think the bible has a very basic universality. there's carnality, brutality, morality and mythology. brilliant stuff that speaks to the very humanity of us all. our temptations, our fears, our desires and our needs. even a non-christian should read it, if only to understand where much of our western civilization's social standards come from. i think the bible is a brilliant collection of all sorts of wisdom and history of a cultural (in the end, our own culture). has anyone noticed that if you look at the 10 commandments from a cold, sensible viewpoint, following those basic rules makes for a very peaceful and satisfying life? it's true. the more i worked to follow those basic rules, the happier and more pleasant my life has become, once i got past the pride and not wanting to be told what to do.

 

Very true KC.

And I would add to those 10 commandment the Jesus quote (something he picked up from far eastern traders),- "do unto others as you would have them do unto you".

It's sad that Christians focus on the dogma. "Jesus died for your sins", "without accecpting Jesus as your saviour, you'll burn in hell" and all that insaine religious crap, instead of focusing on the real beauty of the life and teachings of Jesus as a way of living and treating others. I especially like the idea of the "holy ghost" living within us not so much as a "fact" but as a philosophy to explain a feeling of oneness with others. And I like the idea of baptism as a physical act to highten the symbolism of washing away ones guilt or sins of the past, in a way of self forgiveness.
I personally think that the real Jesus, didn't say "I am the way and the light". My guess is he was referring to the "holy spirit" within him. Feeling a oneness with all life, seems to be the best way of feeling a connection with the source of all life.
Throw away the "religion" and there is something for everyone in the bible.
Although you're right, there is much to learn about our history from the "religion" aspect as well.

 

-Can you be a little bit more specific??

What books are you talking about.... where did you get the reference of these books.... and where can i get the reference of these books?

Usually when i here this stuff it almost always turns out bogus. If it is the books that I am thinking of then they are occultic in nature.

 

First...exactly what is your definition of occult? Is anything that is not written by and for christians occult? I know, according to christians, any other religion is bogus. Any information I give to you will be bogus so what's the point but there are some good reads here...
http://www.apologeticsinfo.org/papers/trustworthinessofthebible.html
http://home1.gte.net/deleyd/religion/bibleorigins.html
http://www.biblestudy.org/basicart/batbible.html

So I suppose that all of these theologans, authors, priests and rabbis are all bogus. But why are you asking me? You have a computer do the research yourself if you are allowed to even question what you are told by the church.