The Dirty Methods Of Evolutionists - FOSSIL FORGERY

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  1. catstevens

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    Hi everyone, I hope you are all fine and happy today and everyday, Amen =)
    I've just found the following Article? any comments ? maybe it is old to you, I don't know? myself, I have never known or heard about it?

    Piltdown Man
    APE JAW ON A HUMAN SKULL
    When evolutionists were unable to find even a single fossil to verify their theory, they took recourse to fraud. The "Piltdown Man" fossil, which was produced by mounting a human skull onto an orangutan jaw and deceived the world of science for 40 years, was the most notorious of these frauds. In 1912, Charles Dawson, an amateur paleontologist, came forth with the claim that he found a jawbone and a cranial fragment in a pit near Piltdown, England. Although the jawbone resembled to an ape’s, the teeth and the skull were human-like.
    These specimens were called the "Piltdown Man" and were alleged to be 500 thousand years old. The reconstructions of Piltdown Man were made and they were displayed as conclusive evidence of human evolution in various museums. For more than 40 years, many scientific articles were written, and many interpretations and drawings were made about the Piltdown Man. It was only in 1953 when the fossil was understood to be a forgery as a result of detailed examinations performed on it. The skull belonged to a 500-year-old man, and the jawbone to a recently dead ape. The teeth were thereafter added in order to make the skull resemble to that of a man, and the joints were filed. Then all the pieces were stained with potassium dichromate to make them look old.
    Is this true? I really don't know; just want to add it to my Archive if it is true?
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  3. daisymae

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    I am sure that some jerks try to get away with forgery just to see if they can. They want to be famous, not scientists.

    It is the same as the "Fiji Mermaid" hoax, where a monkey torso was sewn to a fish tail.
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    http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/piltdown.html
     
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    You cannot dismiss a theory because of a few scientists trying to hoax the public and the scientific community.

    would you be happy, if a religious artifact was found- such as an item belonging to Muhammed, then proved to be a hoax.. so people all dismissed Islam completely?

    the evolution question is still theory but it seems a lot of evidence has and continues to be found, such as today http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4879672.stm

    it is a theory, but i will not just dismiss it because of a hoax, and i will not believe it completely becaues it is a theory like everything, keep your mind open

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    Thank you very much, I read the entire Article in that link, Thank you again =) The Article which I found didn't mention any sources or more information as this Article (in the link), that's why I wanted to be sure, Thanks =) It will be added to my Archive :)
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    Did I do so? if you are talking to me.
    Of course Muslims do NOT need a religious artifact such as an item belongs to Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) to believe in Islam :D , I know you are giving an example =) ask yourself: will you write such a response if the writer wasn't a Muslim!



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  7. Occam

    Occam Old bag of dreams

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    Fossil evidence is related to life on this planet. and the evolutionary theory to explain it.

    This does not apply to the evolutionary theory of stars and galaxies. Which cannot be faked by humanity.
    Stellar evolution is all about raw deterministic mater and such mater is open and totally
    indifferent to our desire for it to be anything but what it is.
    Logic, mathematics and observationa ALL fit in saying the observed universe is between ~10 and 14 billion years in age.. And that every atom in our bodies but hydrogen was assembled inside a 1st or 2nd generation star.
    [no mater was created. Neutrons,protons and electrons were re-arranged
    into more complex atoms.]
    Sol is a 3rd generation star. About 4.5 billion years in age. With another 4.5 to go before it swells into a red giant.

    Occam
     
  8. cerridwen

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    that fiji mermaid thing is pretty cool...
     
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    You are joking? right? pretty cool in respect of what? hahaha
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  10. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    Good post, Occam. Too bad it was ignored in favor of a mer-human.
     
  11. Cosmic Butterfly

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    Evolution is REAL. God created evolution. That is how advanced and intelligent is GOD. Doesnt that make sense?

    How can anyone claim the earth is only 6000 years old. Look around you there is proof everywhere. 7,000 year old native american bodies have been found in bogs in Florida. This is undeniable.
    I was wandering around the forest up here in northern arizona, and I find fossils of coral, and shells from when there was in SEA in arizona. I also find double terminated crystals that over millions of years old.
     
  12. Libertine

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    Define "God", please. And what exactly leads you to believe in such an entity?
     
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    Cosmic Butterfly
    Do you believe in God? I wish so...
    who said so, sister? BTW: This thread isn't about what you are talking about, I wrote;

    I've just found the following Article? any comments ? maybe it is old to you, I don't know? myself, I have never known or heard about it? Is this true? I really don't know; just want to add it to my Archive if it is true?
    I was talking about a particular article
    can they prove that it is 7,000 year old maybe 9,000 year old!
    How did you know that?

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    Because it takes alot of extreme, and powerful conditions to create crystals. These crystals are formed deep deep down in the earth. Now these crystals are often badly damaged, and are at the surface revealed in the rain. There hasnt been any active volcanoes in AZ for a loooooooooong time.

    Radiocarbon dating, common sense, and history.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dating

    BTW Cat, I do believe in God and you questioning my beliefs was dumb. I believe in GOD that is beyond anything you and I can fathom. I honor and love God. I also believe this God created the entire universe, and the infinite dimensions. This God also created evolution without even putting much thought into it. God is so amazing. :)
     
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    You have to be blind to not see evolution. Its happening right now. Look at you, sitting in front of computer screen almost telephatically communicating with people all over the world. Information is being transfered almost at the speed of light. All this information at your fingertips. The human being is evovling right now. Not to long ago we fought with spears, and stones, and now we have nuclear bombs able to fly out of the ocean, and destroy an entire country from the other side of the world.
     
  16. Occam

    Occam Old bag of dreams

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    Libertine

    Ah wel, certain humans are always more interested in what they want to be true.
    Rather than trying to understand what actually is.

    Occam
     
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    Cosmic Butterfly
    Still theories or assumptions, over millions of years old maybe 1 million year old [​IMG] we don't know what happened at the time.
    I don't think so, because I am not God, I am not All-knowing,I even don't know you? [​IMG]
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    Cosmic Butterfly
    I don't believe in the evolution of the Ape to a mankind
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    [​IMG] very true
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    Cat Stevens
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  20. Occam

    Occam Old bag of dreams

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    Cat

    why not.?
    U are an ape..As is occam.
    U have something against apes.?
    Too hairy
    too low browed..
    Apes are FAR more integrated with nature than man
    And have been classified as intelligent species, just as man is.

    Chimps and golillas are our brothers..Yet YOU wont admit any ancestry.
    Occam would rather have a chimp as a friend than any such as u

    BIGOT.
     
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