The Facts of Life

Discussion in 'Politics' started by KBlaze, Jul 26, 2005.

  1. KBlaze

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    Would you like to get rid of crime? How about starvation? While you're at it, why don't you get rid of greed, too, while saving the environment? Illegal Immigration, tax frauds, the black market...you'd better say goodbye to them.

    Because,
    The Facts are in:

    A) Every man is his own state. You control yourself and you always have; take advantage of this FACT and lead your life without the "help" or "protection" of a seperate government. There is no disputing this. We are in "anarchy" as we speak; it's time to cut the bullshit that is "government," it never has controlled you, you have controlled you. That is an undisputable FACT.

    B) Virtually every crime in society broods and grows within the mind of man AFTER he is placed in a situation where he must fend for himself. Enter a money economy. Your life surrounds the search for green paper, a miniscule trade item that divides one race into classes, and makes the mind of man (already weakend by the independence-drain known as The State) submit to selfishness, sometimes robbery, or swindling, so he can get by. The Fact is, you can have anything you want in life, you just need the cash. That's why crackheads steal car stereos, that's why people rob liquor stores, that's why Dad came home from his shitty job every night drunk as hell and beat me, and now I'm a serial killer/rapist. This is what happens with life under quasi-slavery. The FACT is, this is not true freedom. It is a degree of freedom, and the number on your bank statement is the degree. But a degree of freedom is, conversly, a degree of slavery. Only true freedom is never slavery, unless you're a slave to freedom. Blah; money sucks, don't you get this by now?

    C) Any being born anywhere in existence has the unalienable right to explore and migrate through space as he chooses. Borders are fake. It's just a fence. It's just mesh wire. Earth is truly one nation, as the Cosmos is truly one nation. How pathetic that we allow ourselves to be locked in cages called countries. We should all be able to walk the Earth freely and naturaly, as we did before States or Currency.
    The FACTS are: Government controls nobody, and Money is ficticious, and I can go wherever the hell I want. We must abolish these burdens, remove the stone from atop our collective chest and breathe freely, as free as we once were among the animals.

    Please, disagree with me.
    I beg you to disagree. Tell me why this will not work. Every reason you come up with will have been stained into your mind by our current systems. You'll say it's human nature to be greedy, ha. You'll tell me without government, we'd all run around killing eachother, get real. It's okay to wake up to this, it's okay to see that our lives are basicly a maze from one institution to the next. When we see that, we are more likely to change it and make progress. That's how we've gotten so far up till now. Now it's time to go further.

    And I know I sound like a douche without posting the clear alternative.
    Well you just digest this for a few while I type it up...
     
  2. KBlaze

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    Countries are now divided by their location rather than varience in "law" and money. You can settle as you choose. Likely, a balance would settle and there would be towns across the globe. Then we use technology to connect everyone who desires, I'm thinking a huge network similar to the Internet but with television and radio and telephone all rolled into the same central machine. This is how you communicate with the world outside of your town. Needs and Offerings can be "sold" online. Most of the material items we like to have can be produced by an assembly line by a computer. Manuel labor is almost unnecessary. We're the fucking human race. We can surley design machines to mine for minerals and metals. I can't personally, that's why this scenario takes the whole world to be on board, everyone has a certain skill, that's one of our most awesome peaks as a species, we truly are individuals.

    With this type of society, you have your whole life to be free and accentuate your personality, becoming skilled in the various things that interest you. That way, people work to their talents, and because you're good at your talent, and you enjoy what you're good at, the quality of made products will explode off the meter. Instead of buying generic jeans by some company that wants your money, you can roll on over to the local tailor and have your clothes personally designed and fitted for you. Do you like fixing cars? It's pretty fun to open the hood and tinker around in there. Well, mention it in your online profile and that way if somebody else has car trouble they cant fix, they can come to your place and you can both benefit from the situation.

    You can take anything, ANYTHING you need in this life, and apply it to this situation.
    Without the bind of money, quality and progress are now the goals. No Wal-Mart dominating and destroying originality. Everything is now an art, as it truly is.
    What I'm thinking of is like two steps ahead of capitalism. Think of it similar to now, but like this:
    Would you work for free, if you got everything back for free?
    If not, you must be a retard.
    And about taking out the garbage, do it yourself and quit bitching.

    I'd go on but I want to make sure I'm being clear here.
    And thanks for your time by the way.
     
  3. KBlaze

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    Hey, this will also allow all you slacking, complaining bitches to keep living your life as you would now, only now you get more of what you want.
    Oh, but it would take too much work to change it, huh?
    We're too lazy to want progress for us all, I'd rather have my little shit-share of money.
    What a kook KBlaze must be, he actually wants the human race to be successful.

    Some of you people make me laugh and shake my head.
     
  4. KBlaze

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    Where's Random Andy when I need him?
     
  5. KBlaze

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    haha




    well thanks for the post
     
  6. james q

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    thanks 4 posting this. it's like a manifesto 4 the aquarian age. i like it, and what ur on about. tell us more.
     
  7. flmkpr

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    i agree now if we could just convince EVERYONE (or at least most ) wed be on our way! woooohoooo!
     
  8. flmkpr

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    hey i got some blackberries ill trade ya for an apple! ahh just take em ive had plenty!!
     
  9. KBlaze

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    Yes! Thanks, guys. Trust me the full manifesto is on the way.

    Imagine waking when you felt like it. You stretch and get up, fully rested after adding a billiards room to your buddie's house yesterday. The sun's out and the day's lookin nice, so you throw on some clothes, stroll out the door, and walk into the street, a nice open field with the houses surrounding the town square in a spacious circle.

    People are out, riding bikes, barbequing; in the distance you might see some folk getting ready to hike up that mountain, to the left someone is fixing their envirocar, a treaded, lightweight vehicle; the streets here are like fairways on a golf course, no harsh concrete or assfault in sight. you see a dude taking care of the grass, watering it from a community hose that's connected to the pump/purifier in the nearby lake. Behind you the chop of a helicopter thumps into earshot, you look and see it land on the pad just outside of town, carrying boxes of imported fruit and other exotic luxeries from around the globe. You jump on your bike and ride over to give the smiling pilot a hand. She throws you some crates and you wheel them back to town, setting them up by the food stand so all who wants can come and have some.

    After getting a bite to eat, some of your homies have just come back from a beneficient hunt, you mosey over to the center of town to see what's up. There a stage is set, where its Open Mic Night 24/7. sometimes there'll be a guy reading a story to people, or some people with acoustic guitars, or a rap-battle, or a hardcore show, or a DJ playing good dance music and everyone in town comes out to groove and chill out. But right now nobody's up there so you go up and tell a few jokes to the few folks standing around, they chuckle. You look up into the extended-contrail-free sky. Fall is coming up, and soon after another winter. You're going to need a coat. So you wander over to one of the local tailors and she sizes you up nicely, says shes got something special for you, pick it up before the rain clouds roll in. So now you're walking back to your place as you pass the church/mosque/what have you, it's nice that these people have so much space to freely worship without persecution on themselves or others. But even so, you don't fall into outside dogma. you take a glance at the sun and grin.

    Back at your house, you go online and see if anyone is in need of your services. Plenty of people have downloaded the book you've written, so they're getting entertained and sending back nice messages. That's good. But nobody has yet responded to your public inquiry about fixing drainage pipes. Whatever, you think, I'll do it myself. You suit up and walk across town to the library, nodding your head to the rock jam that's happening at the square. Entering the library, you give the volunteer secretary a heads up, and find the home care section, spotting a book on drainages. After flipping through the pages you see this looks like what you need, so you let the secretary know youre borrowing it, throw him a peace sign, and head out, but not before flirting with that beauty in the self-knitted skirt. Smiles and knowing eyes lead to some candle lit dinner in your back yard, then some love making and joint-smoking when the moon shows itself, followed by a nice acoustic set in the town square, then it's bed time.
    And so might go your average day in anytown earth.
     
  10. MikeE

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    I am free. I can do anything that I please.

    I am aware of some things. If I choose to step off a roof, I know I will fall until I hit the ground. The height of the roof affects my decision to step off of it.

    I know that if I walk into a store, pick up a coat and walk out without paying for it, someone will come running after me. Or they may make a phone call and a trained person in a uniform will grab me and put me in a cell.

    While I am free to do anything that I want to, I need to be aware of the environment (including the government and its reactions) in which I act.

    I also need to be aware of the effects of my actions. I may be able to take that coat in a manner that avoids being thrown in jail, but my taking it will have an effect on the shop owner. Furthemore, I need to consider the longer term effects. Do I want to live in a society where taking things without consulting their current owner is common? Does my taking the coat without consulting anyone else make such a society more or less likely?

    If I accept the totality of my freedom, I must accept the totality of my responsibility.
     
  11. KBlaze

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    Dude, it sounds like your head's in the right place,

    But when you say,

    "Do I want to live in a society where taking things without consulting their current owner is common? Does my taking the coat without consulting anyone else make such a society more or less likely?"

    I don't know if you're commenting on my idea or talking about now-adays.
    In what I'm talking about the coats would be there for the taking. You're encouraged to take them.

    Responsibility is nothing. It's just being a smart, aware person.
     
  12. james q

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    fabulous, but how did u know i wore self-knitted skirts? :&
     
  13. KBlaze

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    Psychic powers, and attention to detail.

    ...not sure what that red face means.
     
  14. james q

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    modesty forbids! don't u remember what u said? (during the joint smoking-love making bit)
     
  15. SDS

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    KBlaze I'm back after, you know, an absence of a few days. Even now I won't be able to stay too long. I hope I can get back to the "Mercedes thread"....

    There's so much new stuff it's hard to know where to start.

    But KBlaze I'm starting here because I thought you were on the right track but now I see you're WAY OFF BASE! (But I believe your intentions are good so there's still hope...)

    Disagree? And how.

    No one ultimately controls one's self and no one ever has. We live in a world of cause and effect. I said it here somewhere else tonight "no one lives in a vacuum." Not only does government control us but everything else as well. That's the one side of the coin.

    The flip side of the same coin is that no one can get anywhere in life on this planet in this universe in this dimension without cooperation. Family friends society government whatever.

    Virtually every crime breeds in the mind of man after he's placed in a situation where he must fend for himself. True. But this starts on DAY ONE it's not just in the context of money. It's the Law of the Jungle from Day One. Anarchy yes but Jungle Anarchy. Pigville.

    Free like among the animals? We were never free. We probably never will be. But some are more free than others. One can become more free by knowledge, by recognizing exploitation for example. We need to make things better and more free for everybody.

    Got to go.
     
  16. KBlaze

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    Ahahaha yes!

    Dude, self control is the only control you will ever have in this mortal coil. You allow the ideas of government to control your mind. Currently, everyone alive is controlling themselves through their own minds, unless they're disabled.

    Government controls you if you let it, and then, you are again controlling yourself. It's that simple.

    Example: I recently got a possesion of marijuana ticket. After using my lucky connections, thank God my dad knows a lawyer, I bargined it down to 40 hours community service and 30 dollars. I paid and I have yet to do the service but I will. This is not because Uncle Sam told me to, it is because I know I live in a system where too many of the people believe in the concept of government so it is easier to pay the fuckers off to avoid my door being kicked down. In the long run this is easier, but also, in the long run, this whole situation is false, because the fact is,

    I am my own being, I am my own state.

    And nothing can ever change that.

    That's what people have to...revelate to.
    Of course I believe in cooperation; in this place all individuals are cooperating with eachother.
    I'm looking for a feaseable way to Utopia. It is impossible to have a utopia with seperate government and a currency/money/point system in place. Those thing rob the individual of freedom. The society must be as one individual, working together, while recognizing the freedom and independence of all individuals within, without restricting their freedom and societal-input via classes or states.

    Blah, I have to go to a fatty sesh.
     
  17. SDS

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    It's good you're seeking utopia. My goal is the same thing (for me and everyone) except I call it Paradise (which has spiritual overtones but that's ok because I don't want any desires to be unfulfilled including those relating to "supernatural" matters). Anyway we both want the same thing.

    As for currency/money/government/point system I'm still thinking about what role those should or shouldn't play. I can at least say that the matter of a "point system" -- i.e. the matter of merit -- is a completely perverse concept as it currently exists. Institutions relaing to "merit" need revolutionary change.

    But I'm convinced you're mistaken on the issue of freedom. "Self control is the only control you will ever have." Well, our minds control our bodies but the fact is that material factors and so forth control our minds (our choices and decisions). In other words free will does not exist. This may seem difficult to accept and will (probably) require lots of thought for you to accept even though it's completely clear and simple (it's not that it's hard to understand it's just that people don't want to accept it). The good news KBlaze however is that the fact that the will is not free, that we are not free, will NOT impede you in your quest for Utopia and where you want to go. On the contrary. Understanding that you are not free increases your freedom relatively (relative to those who think they're free.

    It gets back to the Mercedes thing and the matter of merit...

    More later.
     
  18. MikeE

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    I am talking about both societies. Awareness of one's results is important regardless of the society in which you live.

    Regarding coats: In the current society, taking a coat from Macy's has different long term results from taking a coat from the local free pile. Both have repercussions that one should be aware of.
     
  19. KBlaze

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    "Material factors control our minds"
    Ha ha, only if you let them, my friend.
    Anything that I perceive gets through the "I" in my mind.
    I perceive, I observe, I interpret.
    The question is, who's in charge up there? (Points to your head)
    Outside influences, or you?
    I produce my thoughts, I am aware, I am in as much control over myself as possible,
    which leads to the free will question.
    Am I typing this by choice, or was it destined by the Universe?
    That is something we will never know, and I think both answers are correct.
    But free will is different than government power. Free will has to do with the totallity of existence, government has to do with individuals allowing themselves to be governed.
    I am not against government, for I govern myself.
    But any body, ANY ENTITY WHAT SO EVER, out side of myself,
    WILL NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER control me.
    Or you.
    Unless you allow it.
    In which case, you are allowing it, so you're still controlling you.

    Free will is abstract and can have different meanings to different people; you can't prove or disprove it.
    But government IN FACT is concept, so no matter what, it never really exists over me.

    And about the coats, the repercussions of taking it from the free pile is, you get a coat, and the person who made it is happy their effort is keeping somebody warm, if you take it from macy's, guys in suits chase you down and lock you in a cage.
     
  20. flmkpr

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    yaa what are the repercuccions(or how ever you spell it) of taking somthing that was given freely??
     

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