The Final Goal Of Humanity

What are we striving for ?

I can't figure it out, as I look around all I see is chaos. We collectively as

humans have no consensual agreement on a goal for the species. I would think

that a sustainable, healthy, peaceful population would be the general outline for

such a goal but we seem to be going rapidly in the opposite direction.

 

We ain't striving for shit, other than to get out of bed in the morning and go back to bed that night. Fill the time between the days, sleep my pretty's, sleep. Sleep is all we need, until we get so old that we can only shit ourselves, and have to get put down like a lame dog. Except that's not even legal. We just have to sit there, festering in our faeces whilst our children wipe the dribble from our mouths, until that day when we just....

That's not my motto, and not everyones, but I know a horrifying amount of people who live that way.. I mean it's not THAT dark, the end bit was a slight exaggeration, it is generally a lot happier than that, but you know.. it's hard to see the world through a computerscreen from 9-5 everyday. What's there to save?

Plus, you'll never fix it, cos something else just breaks.

 

What we are striving for seems to be more of an individual goal than a collective goal. We are each striving to live our lives the way we see fit without someone else telling us we must live our lives according to them and their beliefs.

 

We strive to have our needs met, whatever they might be.

Different people --> different needs ---> different goals and priorities.

 

Our genes just want to be passed on.

 

What makes you think there need to be a goal?

 

Exactly, my thought :2thumbsup:

 

Yes, perfectly said.

 

I've often thought it would be cool if there was some international agency dedicated to philosophizing about things. Like the Jedi council. Only it would be like, Stephen Hawkings and David Chalmers and such. Their consultation would always be requested, just because, even though sometimes people would not listen.

 

there is no "final" anything. but it would be nice for humanity to grow up without killing itself. oh eventually sapience evolves beyond the need for physical bodies, but humanity, we haven't even, as a speicies, been out of diapers long enogh to look toward becoming collectively sane. that's the next step for planet earth. maybe when most of us die off from famine and disease, those who survive will have learned to become a little more civilized.

 

The prospects of humanity being able to change seem bleak to me. I think our elite leaders have us so under their thumbs that we can't really get a chance to improve things enough to make a difference.

 

I don't think we can be aware of our final goal.. I mean, when it all comes down to it I think humanities final "goal" is to become one with everything and nothing again and be at peace but the process of getting there... I don't think we know where we are heading (I do think we can mess it up though).

 

Let me add, I will go out doing my best to love us all. As long as I know my personal direction and goal, which is only to love, that's what I can do. I'm not perfect, I lose it with people sometimes, but I hold a vision in my head of how humanity could be (I guess that's why I lose it when people don't seem to be trying).

If time ever comes that a majority of humanity feels love toward all the rest of humanity, I thing positive changes will have a chance to take hold.

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Yes... it is nice to imagine.

(and at the end of the day if that is how a person lives that is all that matters or counts)

 

Maybe we will eventually evolve into something better.

Meantime, I think our goal should really be damage limitation. Ensure we dont destroy the natural environment to a point where the earth can no longer support the biosphere.
Whether this is possible remains an open question. To me it seems unlikely unless there were to be very radical global change starting now.

 

Lose it as in get angry, sometimes angry enough like you could kill someone?


One of the lines in Imagine is: Imagine all the people living for today
i.e no planning for the future, no goals

Another line is: A brotherhood of man
i.e forget about the sisterhood, chics dont matter

Of course Lennon himself was one that dumped the wife and kid for some trendy asian chic that I assumed put out a lot, and so they could drop acid together, And at the time he would have been in the richest 1% of the world

The message being, as long as you say out loud you are all about love and peace if you are loaded, you can do what you want

No need for greed then we'd all be out of a job, no need for hunger and the world would just get fat like most of the first world does


How many of those staving kids in Africa that Live Aid was supposed to help got to go to Queens College, have a modelling career then write off a sports car with her friends on the way to Disneyland like Peaches Geldof did?

 

First=Depends. Some have very simple goals,such as get to some food someplace so as prevent their starvation.

Some want some kind of meaningfull work.

Some want inordinate amounts of material goods.

Some just want to live to see tomorrow.

My point is that I could go on and on relative to individual desires,needs and goals.

Etc-etc-etc-etc depending on EACH individual. This is uppermost in human thought presently. Not un-natural.

Second=A final goal of humanity is not--has not--and may not ever be discussed seriously until and unless catastrophic events make such necessary. Maybe not even then. Could devolve into every human for themselves. Or isn't that true now?

That's the short answer.

 

Free will? If I had free will, everything would be the way I want it. There wouldn't be any such thing as war, hunger, death, suffering or evil. None of the other species on this marble have any choice but to be what they are. A deer can't be a cougar, and I can't be Bill Gates. But I am comfortable in my own skin.

"I feel much better, now that I've given up all hope."

 

No.

I'm pretty offended that you'd even pose a question like that to me. What's up with that? Where'd that come from?

Yeah, you don't like Lennon. No biggie.

 

Peace