The forbidden fruit

Why do people always display it like an apple?

 

I think it's because of the Septuagint translation, but it could be a later source. Not sure. Judaism doesn't say it's an apple. That's a Christian thing.

Dauer

 

The thing is- the Bible doesn't say it either!

And since the story was in the OT (Torah), I thought I should post it here...

Thanks anyways!

 

Apples are just an easy analogy. We all know what an apple looks like. It's a pretty universal thing. So our brain connects this kind of thing with things we already know. There's probably no real religious reason behind it.

 

So no-one goes looking for them and cultivating the real fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Can you imagine what would happen if they did? The whole world would wake up to the scam, and we couldn't have that, could we now??

 

Get over yourself.

 

hmmmm what firuts grow in the middle east?

 

hmmmm...grapes, distles...that's all I know.

 

i'm still convinced it was a mushroom

 

What's a "Pommegranite"??
*looks up*

Mushroom...haha...that's different.

 

But it came from a tree, are you suggesting that there is a mushroom tree? hehehe.

Seriously though, it's a greek connection that we're looking for. In greek mythology there is a tree from which grows golden apples. These apples can have various magical/metaphysical properties depending on the story. Some how or another, probably during the early reniassance, this golden apple tree came to be associated with the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

 

that was a good explanation...

 

There are two different ideas involved which caused both to be intertwined and perverted.

The apple is supposed to denote the sex act. But sex was not forbidden to Adam and Eve.

It says that what was forbidden was the knowledge of good and evil. Sex was not bad or evil, it was already there before the temptation.

What then was the tree of good and evil? It was self consciousness. This is why they covered themselves up, they became self conscious, and with that self consciousness came the realisation that sex was a desire. So to not get desired, to not get lustful, they covered themselves up.

The apple was a fruit, it could be eaten, it goes into the body. In the same way is knowledge, it goes into the body, it is learned, it goes into the mind.

Logic says that if they put on fig leaves, then it was a fig tree and therefore a fig fruit.

But the apple was probably selected because it is pleasing to the eye, even though there may be worms inside. It is the "pleasing to the eye" part that gave the idea that it was an apple.

 

I think the forbidden fruit was sex.

hear me out...

They were naked, a serpent came up and told Eve how sexy she was and she went and flirted with adam and stuff and they had sex, and then they realized what they did so they were ashamed of it, so they covered themselvs, and thats why Eve bare children, maybe it was just meant to be them 2 there forever, until they did that.

I am not joking I seriously think thats what it was talking about.

 

OH I just noticed where someone else mentioned the sex thing, sorry.

 

But G-d told Adam and Eve to " be fruitful and increase in number...".

So they were even commanded to reproduce...

Still interesting thought though.

 

I once heard the story that the fruit were grapes. The same grapes appeared again when Noah first shored the Arc (sp?) and eventually he became so drunk his son made a fool out of him.

I believe this story is told in the book 'Essence of Kabbalah' by rav. P. Berg from the Kabbalah Centre. I like the story but I'm not sure about it.

What do you folks think about it?