The mathmatatics of condition.

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  1. thedope

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    It takes two for a condition to exist. The word condition, at it's root, means to speak with. Every condition we encounter is done so with a consenting voice. You reach agreement with those around you or you reach agreement between dissenting voices in your own mind.

    How would you speak the world into existence?
     
  2. famewalk

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    I like the voices of angels; to them I am the devil for improving my condition of deciding to be free. Decision to be Free IS Free Will, and ti is performed against the constraints of the World which unlike conditions are not speculated about in the mind. These are realities for the free situations of the World, existing only in original Sin reflected upon at returnable to places.

    Places are noted as there and then for the world changes there too, apart form you. Get it;if I shut you up with a key you can't get there.
     
  3. thedope

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    Reality has no parts. All unfolds in unison, my space is not filled if it is not vacated.
     
  4. tikoo

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    the last word in lonesome is me .

    two ideas will make a condition . whoever would just choose a pos. and a neg. for a beginning ? and then expect a vital existence to emerge from that . no ! i need the ha cha cha , baby . too , i'm not all that decided as what to choose . i'll try two which are neither the same nor opposite :

    togetherness and positive
     
  5. lunarverse

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    The definiton I found of "condition" is:
    "Mode or state of being; state or situation with regard to external circumstances or influences, or to physical or mental integrity, health, strength, etc.; predicament; rank; position, estate."


    The world's "state or situation with regard to external circumstances or influences," may have nothing to do with us. I do not converse this happening into a state of being. That already happened long before I was even born into this body.

    On the other hand, if each one of us really is at the core of our individual world's state of being, there wouldn't be cause for any talking, convincing, agreeing, or consent. The world would become around us merely out of necessity and survival. The same reason we are born out of the womb. We can't stay in there, it becomes too small. But at the same time we do not tell it that it should become bigger or should become something else, we simply are born. It may be understood by us at that time what is happening, but is the world not already there waiting for us when we come out?
     
  6. thedope

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    I understand the usage definitions. The definition I offer in this scenario is of the root meaning from the original language. Condition: from Latin con, (with),
    diciere, (to speak), to speak with.

    The world is waiting for us but,
    The parameters of exterior condition as relates to individual experience depends
    On the individuals' vectors of regard.
     
  7. lunarverse

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    That's seems logical


    "How would you speak the world into existence? "

    Which would explain why some individual's worlds seem very small. They've made it so.


    I wouldn't think that people speak their worlds into existence but maybe develop out of necessity and desire.
     
  8. The Imaginary Being

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    i love you too
     
  9. thedope

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    From the moment we are born our world is being calibrated through the naming of things.
     
  10. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    Good point. Alright then, so perhaps we speak our world into existence by naming everything.
     
  11. famewalk

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    Nope, the church needs to speak with you OR coincidentally at the idea going on here and there.
     
  12. lunarverse

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    Could you specify in what context you think the church has to do with the subject at hand. Your above statement is a little vague.
     
  13. famewalk

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    You have an unnecessary picture below (above) for the facts of alienation approaching for the new day. The context is obviously the thread we are doing at communication. :cool:
     
  14. yyyesiam2

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    Direct perception/Recollection
    Perception/Perceived
    Nothing/Something
    Ego/Matter

    This is fun.

    Duality is always fun to think about. Ever think about the om? The original vibration that makes up all of the physically manifested universe. Vibration itself is an oscillation between two points in infinite space. This oscillation, this physical manifestation of duality, is what makes up matter and energy.
     
  15. thedope

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    Duality is fun, dualism is retarded.
     
  16. yyyesiam2

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    Which of these are you referring to?



    2.
    Philosophy . a. the view that there are just two mutually irreducible substances. Compare monism, pluralism.

    b. the view that substances are either material or mental.


    3. Theology . a. the doctrine that there are two independent divine beings or eternal principles, one good and the other evil.

    b. the belief that a human being embodies two parts, as body and soul.



    I would have to agree that none of these are true, but i don't think i attributed validity to any of them in the first place. Duality exists, just as singularity and plurality. They are equally valid perceptions, none entirely true, all occurring in the imperfect human mind.
     
  17. thedope

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    Neither, none, I am simply saying there is no opposing force.
     
  18. Mr.Writer

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    the speaker already is the world
     
  19. thedope

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    I'd rather be a hammer than a nail.
     
  20. yyyesiam2

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    But the nail get's to penetrate.....isn't that what life's all about?

    :)
     

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