The truth about the Iran election

Discussion in 'Politics' started by McLeodGanja, Jun 29, 2009.

  1. McLeodGanja

    McLeodGanja Banned

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    Interesting article by George Galloway in his column in the Daily Record today about the Iran elections. Seems to be reiterating what I already suspected, that the allegations of electoral rigging are indeed foundless and lack any evidence whatseover to back up the claims. I'm not saying I am a fan of President I'madinnerjacket, but you have to admit that there is an unmistakable element of political/economic bias and hypocrisy about who the west seems to want to side with in all of this, as there usually is.

    http://blogs.dailyrecord.co.uk/georgegalloway/2009/06/im-not-a-traitor-or-a-hypocrit.html

     
  2. jagerhans

    jagerhans Far out, man. Lifetime Supporter

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    yet Teheran refuses to recount the votes, except for the "random" samples they chose. for what reason on earth a government prefers shooting and axe-murdering people in the streets instead of repeating a scrutiny, when they claim such a large victory ? either they are hiding something or they are monstruously stupid and fierce. ok, there are no blatant proofs of these elections being rigged but surely we have big reasons of suspect here . please consider the opportunity that Israel does not really want a change of regime in iran. The Israelis fund all of their political weight (and take so many green bills from uncle sam) on being the first line against middle-east fanatics so i dont give a damn about what mossad says. Without all those enemies of the USA to take care of they represent just a little crappy desert state in the asshole of nothingness. On the other side no one can induce me into believing that ahmadinejad really wants to wage war on israel. he just goes to meetings and talks a lot of shit about zionists to show off with his beduin friends, then goes back home and kills some young brave girl in the streets to prove how macho he is.
     
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  3. drew5147

    drew5147 Dingledodie

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    QFT :cheers2:
     
  4. McLeodGanja

    McLeodGanja Banned

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    How would you react to another country that was intent on stirring things up, undermining your authority in front of your people and creating a civil disturbance?

    Iran has made their position quite clear with the west and Isreal. To keep their fucking noses out of their business, so why would they just turn round and perform a recount because we don't believe the election was legitimate?

    The facts are there, Iran has not attacked any neighbouring countries. Isreal, on the other hand, has attacked several.
     
  5. Hiptastic

    Hiptastic Unhedged

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    George Galloway is a complete disgrace, and yes he is a traitor who would lick any dictator's ass for money. This is someone who goes around the world praising one dictator after another.
     
  6. McLeodGanja

    McLeodGanja Banned

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    If he is such a disgrace then why does he talk so much sense. I don't agree with him on everything he says, but mostly I do.

    He didn't do anything of the kind praise saddam hussein, he went there on a peace keeping mission. At the same time the UN were killing thousands of Iraqi children by sanctioning medicine going into the country. Maybe he was trying to help the people of Iraqi by co-operating with their leader, as opposed to executing him, and in the process turning the entire country into a disaster zone.
     
  7. Hiptastic

    Hiptastic Unhedged

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    He doesn't.
    O RLY? Why would he stand right in front the the mass murderer and say this then?
    Until Jerusalem... well Iraq has tried to invade or attack Israel four times already, I guess George would like them to have another go.
    Who are the foreigners occupying Jerusalem, McLeod?
    Which might explain why he supported the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.
     
  8. McLeodGanja

    McLeodGanja Banned

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    He was one of the few mps who had the sense to speak out against the Iraq war, and for that he was thrown out of the labour party. The labour party claim to stand for free speech and democracy.

    I don't think he went to meet Saddam Hussein to congratulate him for being a genocidal maniac, but to try to bring an end to the suffering of Iraqi people, in the best way he saw fit.

    Tony Blair and George Bush thought that the best way to bring an end to suffering of Iraqi people was to bomb the living daylights out of them for years on end, and throw the country into a civil war.
     
  9. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    That was Galloway? Heh. Didn't he get attacked by demonstrators awhile back?
     
  10. cadcruzer

    cadcruzer Sailing the 8 seas

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    He was stoned "not the good kind";) in Egypt.

    He also was denied entry into Canada, safe to say George is not well liked.
     
  11. Hiptastic

    Hiptastic Unhedged

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    In fact he has spoken out very much in favor of war in Iraq, just on the side of the people who are beheading aid workers and blowing up street markets.
    Its a political party, everyone doesn't just makes up their own policy positions.
    That interpretation is totally incompatible with what he actually said.
    Strangely enough, some polls show Iraqis think the same thing, particularly the non-Sunni population which lived under the thumb of the Baathists.
     
  12. McLeodGanja

    McLeodGanja Banned

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    George Galloway is not speaking in support of terrorists, this is a totally absurd and unfounded claim to make. If something is untoward in the government, then at the very least I'd expect my local MP to speak up about it. The labour party has been infiltrated by people with hidden agendas, and anyone who speaks out about it is slandered by the press and branded an outsider. I don't give a fuck if a political party has ideologies that must be stuck to, this is not what the labour party used to stand for.
     
  13. cadcruzer

    cadcruzer Sailing the 8 seas

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    He supports Hezbollah and Hamas.
     
  14. McLeodGanja

    McLeodGanja Banned

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    I'm starting to think you guys work for the tabloids.
     
  15. cadcruzer

    cadcruzer Sailing the 8 seas

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    Why's that?

    Is it because you don't think he supports these groups or is it because you don't think these groups should be labeled terrorist?
     
  16. McLeodGanja

    McLeodGanja Banned

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    Define terrorism.
     
  17. cadcruzer

    cadcruzer Sailing the 8 seas

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    I'd rather watch paint dry,

    Don't be a pussy, if you don't think they are terrorist say so, don't play games....

    For the record, i believe Both Hamas and Hezbollah to be terrorist.

    Of course killing innocent civilians is above the 2 mentioned groups, right?
     
  18. flmkpr

    flmkpr Senior Member

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    so killing innocent civilians makes you a terrorist?
    and your group is above that? right?
     
  19. cadcruzer

    cadcruzer Sailing the 8 seas

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    I would think so, don't you ?
    i should have made it more clear, intentionally killing civilians/noncombatants

    Remind me, who is "my group" ?
     
  20. Hiptastic

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    Intentionally targetting civilians makes you a terrorist, I agree.
     
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