"The Truth shall be known..."

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  1. Francisco

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    *SiRiUs* Bright Star posted, "The Truth shall be known..."

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    indeed It will, by those who have experienced The Miracle
    that is "receiving a love of The Truth"!

    sad that so many reject Truth because of their love
    for the destructive processes that are created of
    mankinds "imag"ination ;-(

    and "d"evil spirit is the lying "wonder" that provides the
    fuel for the "the lust of the eye, the lust of the flesh, and
    the pride of life" that drive mankinds "imagination" ;-(

    sadly the destructive processes of mankinds "imag"ination
    are destroying Creation ;-(

    soon "The Great Spirit is going to destroy all those who
    were responsible for destroying HIS Creation(earth/air/
    water/creatures)".

    sadly, in these last days mankinds "mag"ination has even
    begun its destruction of "outer space" ;-(

    yet, while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

    Miracles do happen!

    may there be those who experience The Miracle that is
    "receiving a love of The Truth". those who receive will "see":

    "a simple and spiritual life is the only life that will survive".

    peace, in spite of the wars(spiritual and carnal) that rage....... francis(co)
     
  2. Francisco

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    "GOD, HE WHO is The Great Spirit, is Love", indeed!

    however, he who is "the god of this world", he who is "the father of lies",
    he who is "d"evil spirit that rules over those who love this wicked world,
    he has those who serve him believing that "lust" is "love" and "love" is
    "lust" ;-(

    what is "love"? i believe The Testimonies rightly give the answer:

    “Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not love, I have
    become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. And though I have the gift of
    prophecy,and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith,
    so that I could remove mountains, and have not love, I am nothing. And though I
    bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and
    have not love, it profits me nothing.

    Love suffers long, and is kind; love envies not; love vaunts not itself, is not puffed up,
    does not behave unseemly, seeks not her own, is not easily provoked, thinks no evil.

    Love rejoices not in iniquity, but rejoices in the Truth.

    Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

    Love never fails: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be
    diverse sorts of tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish
    away.

    For now we know in part, and we prophesy in part. But when that which is perfect is
    come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

    When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but
    when I became a man, I put away childish things.

    For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but
    then shall I know even as also I am known.

    And now abides faith, hope, and love, these three; but the greatest of these is love.”

    and while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

    Miracles do happen!

    may there be those who experience The Miracle that is
    "receiving a love of The Truth" for then they will
    also experience The Love Of The Great Spirit.

    peace, in spite of the wars(spiritual and carnal) that rage....... francis
     
  3. Francisco

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    the apostles "could not bear them now" because they were not yet
    immersed in The Great Spirit. and so Our Father commnicated HIS Will
    directly to the apostles after they were immersed. and they testified:

    "love not the world or the things that are in the world", "if any man loves
    this world The Love of The Father is not in them", for "the WHOLE world
    is under the control of "d"evil one" and "whoever would be a friend of
    this world is the enemy of The Great Spirit"!

    sadly those who are of this world follow their "imag"inations ;-( and
    the inventions and self-centered greedy, lustfilled ways of mankind's
    "imag"ination are destroying Creation ;-( yet mankind continues to
    follow the destructive processes of his "imag"ination ;-( even though
    The Creator has promised "HE will destroy them who destroy HIS
    Creation(earth/air/water/creatures)"!

    yet, while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

    for Miracles do happen!

    may there be those who experience The Miracle that is
    "receiving a love of The Truth". all who do so will follow
    The Messiah on "The Way to The Truth of The Life"!

    peace, in spite of the wars(spiritual and carnal) that rage.
    francisco
     
  4. shaman sun

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    Just see what is, and don't dance in personified fairy tales. Everything is imagination,
    Discover the white canvas.
     
  5. Francisco

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    rather it should be, that you "discover" Truth!

    and truth is this “wicked world” is but the product of “the lust of the eye, the lust of the
    flesh, and the pride of life” that feeds mankind’s “imag”ination. and the inventions and self
    centered, greedy ways that are the product of mankind’s “imag”ination are destroying Creation;-(

    and "the god of this world", he who is "the father of lies" is "d"evil spirit that dominates,
    and provides the fuel for, mankind’s "imag"ination ;-(

    and the children of The Great Spirit are to resist that evil, lying spirit that is leading those
    who are of this world along the “broadway to destruction” ;-(

    and soon "The Great Spirit is doing to destroy those who destroy HIS Creation(earth/air/water/creatures)"!

    yet while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

    hope! not for that which is of mankind's "imag"ination;-( but there is hope for those who
    respect Creation, and serve The Creator, as they abide in The Truth!

    hope! for Miracles do happen!

    may there be those who experience The Miracle that is "receiving a love of The Truth”,

    for they will have peace, in spite of the wars(spiritual and carnal)that rage..francisco
     
  6. shaman sun

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    All things good and evil are products of the imagination.
     
  7. Vanessa*SiRiUs_Star*

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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Francisco
    *SiRiUs* Bright Star posted, "The Truth shall be known..."

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    indeed It will, by those who have experienced The Miracle
    that is "receiving a love of The Truth"!

    sadly the destructive processes of mankinds "imag"ination
    are destroying Creation ;-(

    soon "The Great Spirit"
    yet, while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

    Miracles do happen!

    may there be those who experience The Miracle that is
    "receiving a love of The Truth". those who receive will "see":

    "a simple and spiritual life is the only life that will survive".

    peace, in spite of the wars(spiritual and carnal) that rage....... francis(co)



    That is so so true!!!

    ****

    Turn around and smell what you don't see
    On both ways you can get in

    Don’t think twice before you listen to your heart

    Follow the trace for a new start



    What you need and everything you’ll feel

    It’s just a question of a deal



    In the eye of the storm you’ll see a lonely dove

    The experience of survival is the key

    To the gravity of love

    Oh, Fortuna

    Velut Luna

    ”The path of excess leads to the Tower of Widsom”.


    Try to think about it

    That’s the chance to live your life

    And discover what it is

    What’s the gravity of love



    Look around just people

    Can you hear their voice?

    Follow the one who guide you

    To the limits of your choice


    But if you’re in the eye

    Of the storm

    Just think of the lonely dove

    The experience of survival

    Is the key to the Gravity of Love



    LOVE

    IAO |o|

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  8. Vanessa*SiRiUs_Star*

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    God Is LOVE

    IAO

     
  9. Vanessa*SiRiUs_Star*

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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Francisco
    Well, don't turn into a "fanatic"...that's no good [​IMG]






    Quote:
    Love suffers long, and is kind; love envies not; love vaunts not itself, is not puffed up,

    does not behave unseemly, seeks not her own, is not easily provoked, thinks no evil.
    Love rejoices not in iniquity, but rejoices in the Truth.
    Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
    Love never fails.

    And now abides faith, hope, and love, these three; but the greatest of these is love.”
    Miracles do happen!
    may there be those who experience The Miracle that is
    "receiving a love of The Truth" for then they will
    also experience The Love Of The Great Spirit.

    [​IMG]

    IAO

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  10. Vanessa*SiRiUs_Star*

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    "For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad." (Luke 8:17) and it is knowledge that had to wait its own time to be grasped by our own mind, as the Christ spoke: "I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now." (John 16:12).







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    ADSUM


    *Stas* (Amarok * Mike Oldfield*)




    LOVE

    IAO |o|

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  11. Vanessa*SiRiUs_Star*

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    rather it should be, that you "discover" Truth!

    and truth is this “wicked world” is but the product of “the lust of the eye, the lust of the
    flesh, and the pride of life” that feeds mankind’s “imag”ination. and the inventions and self
    centered, greedy ways that are the product of mankind’s “imag”ination are destroying Creation;-(
    and "the god of this world", he who is "the father of lies" is "d"evil spirit that dominates,
    and provides the fuel for, mankind’s "imag"ination ;-(
    and the children of The Great Spirit are to resist that evil, lying spirit that is leading those
    who are of this world along the “broadway to destruction” ;-(
    and soon "The Great Spirit is doing to destroy those who destroy HIS Creation(earth/air/water/creatures)"!
    yet while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!
    hope! not for that which is of mankind's "imag"ination;-( but there is hope for those who
    respect Creation, and serve The Creator, as they abide in The Truth!
    hope! for Miracles do happen!
    may there be those who experience The Miracle that is "receiving a love of The Truth”,
    for they will have peace, in spite of the wars(spiritual and carnal)that rage..francisco




    I think you "talk" too much...Give HOPE and FAITH instead of making people believe in that religious speech you wrote or rewrote.



    [​IMG]


    LOVE

    IAO |o|

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  12. Vanessa*SiRiUs_Star*

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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by shaman sun
    All things good and evil are products of the imagination.



    So...the people, for instance, who die in Iraq is just imagination? [​IMG]



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    LOVE

    IAO |o|

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  13. shaman sun

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    That's an interesting question, Fed. This brings to mind the same question that was asked in Quantum Physics. When String Theory was developed, a multitude of different String Theories were developed - but how could that be? String Theory, also known as M Theory, was supposed to be a unifying theory. One that would explain the microcosm and the macrocosm, unlocking a new chapter in our species' understanding of the universe. A brilliant scientist finally stepped up to the plate, explaining that each different String Theory was equally correct, in fact, they were all different reflections of the same String Theory. Thus, unification.

    So, is my Truth your truth? Well, yes and no. What is the ultimate truth from which the multitude of realities reflect? Perhaps we cannot know it, because to know is to perceive through one set of eyes. The ultimate truth of things lies, metaphorically, in the abyss of the unknown. We, beings of the word, of the pen, beings of relative perception, will never be able to bring it into our world, but, perhaps we can bring ourselves into that unknown. Thus, divinity.
     
  14. Francisco

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    simply, that which is of the "imag"ination is of "d"evil.......period.......

    and that which is of mankinds "imag"ination is destroying Creation
    (earth/air/water/creatures).......period.......

    and today mankinds "imag"ination is even destroying the "outer space" ;-(

    The Great Spirit, HE works in the "heart" of man and that which is of the
    "heart" nurtures and cares for Creation, yet heartless men and women only
    care for "the lusts of their flesh, the lusts of their eyes, and the pride of
    their own selflife ;-(

    soon there will be a separation, and thankfully so!

    those who live from the "heart(spirit)" will join their Creator ;-)
    and those who live of their "imag"ination will join "d"evil ;-(

    yet, while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

    for Miracles do happen!

    may there be those who experience The Miracle that is
    "receiving a love of The Truth" for they will live from and
    of the "heart(spirit)".

    peace, in spite of the wars(spiritual and carnal) that rage....... francisco
    "heart
     
  15. Francisco

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    pilate questioned, "what is Truth?" ;-(​





    and today? oh my, how the lies of the pagan "catholic/christian" whore and​
    their "imag"ined "jesus christ" have captivated souls ;-( and those who have​
    not been ensnared by religions delusional doctrinal theo'ry'logy speak "evil of​
    The Way of Truth" ;-(​

    "what is Truth"? simply all that is Real, for that which Real is forever and
    is Truth, and all that is of this temporal world will soon pass away, for nothing​
    of this world is real. everything of this world is of the "imag"ination, illusional ​
    and temporal. and Truth testifies, "The WHOLE world is under the control of ​
    the evil one".​

    "what is Truth"? The Messiah's Teachings and Life example revealed​
    "The Way to The Truth of The Life", yet no man will receive the fullness​
    of His Teachings or experience The Life until he "receives a love of The​
    Truth" which is given of "Our Father", HE WHO is The Great Spirit!​

    may you experience The Miracle that is "receiving a love of The Truth".​

    there are more indigenous peoples living "The Way to The Truth of The Life"​
    without knowing such words, then there are of those who have memorized​
    nearly all the words in the book this world calls the "bible".​

    there are yet indigenous peoples who respect and learn from Creation, and​
    "see" The Great Spirit's Will, Purposes and Order as they experience HIS​
    sufficiency, for HE truly can supply all the needs of mankind. that's "needs"​
    not "wants".​

    may you be of those who appreciate and cultivate, rather than destroy the​
    "schoolhouse" that is The Creaton of The Great Spirit.​

    seek and follow Truth, that which is of The Great Spirit! be set free from your
    own, or anothers, vain "imag"inations.

    immerse yourself in the teachings and life of The Messiah.​

    "The Good News" = The Reality that is "The Kingdom of Heaven"!​

    The Messiah testified, "whoever lives and believes in Me(My Teachings and​
    and My Life example) shall never die"! then The Messiah questioned:​
    "do you believe this"? YES!! and you, do you believe?​

    once again, The Truth is that which is Real, and that which is Real is Forever!​

    and while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!​

    for Miracles do happen!​

    hope is you will experience The Miracle that is "receiving a love of The Truth".​

    peace, in spite of the wars(spiritual and carnal) that rage....... francisco
     
  16. §*Little_Butterfly*§

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    That was the best of all the things you said.
    ♥ Love ♥
    IAO |o|
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  17. shaman sun

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    Division is merely illusion. Imagination is integrated and dynamic.

    These personified forces are symbols of energies we cannot comprehend,
    So your imagination has got you there again, creating "D"evil and Great Spirit. The source is unknowable, unnamable. It is our arrogance to believe in the personification and not transcend the limits of imagination to understand the 'post rational', not the 'pre rational'.

    But yet again, division is merely illusion.
     
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    sad for you ;-( you words speak of one void of experience ;-(
    except maybe for drug induced illusions, or the delusional
    "educational" processes of this world which are but other
    forms of "imag"ination ;-(

    may you one day "experience The Messiah and The Great Spirit, HE
    WHO raised The Messiah from among the dead"!

    simply cast off the "catholic/christian" theo"ry"logical lies and seek
    Truth, no matter the pain.

    Truth is this wicked world is "d"evil empire ;-(

    multitudes of "dead men walkiing" ;-(

    embrace simplicity, for "a simple and spiritual life is the only Life
    that will survive".

    and while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

    for Miracles do happen!

    may you experience The Miracle that is "receiving a love of The Truth".

    peace, in spite of the wars(spiritual and carnal) that rage....... francisco
     
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    Void of what experience? Your experience? And what is your experience? Have you ever questioned it? Or do you merely accept it because it is hopeful and beautiful, and use that as a justification for calling it "Truth"? The only Truth is not of the past or of the future, not of one Man or one deity, but of this moment. Can you see that? Then all of these terms, which are merely another subjective religious experience, are no longer important. When we are ready, we do not need to give God a face. The devil too, for that matter.

    This world is no wicked place unless we make it so. We are only the walking dead because we have trapped ourselves in our illusions, and call them real.

    True Spirit lies in no denomination or limited perception, but transcends all views, all labels, names and independent action. Truth simply is. Do you see that? Or have you built another cage for yourself?
     
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    you can not question Miracles! Healings! Deliverance! Truth!

    Truth is Real, and all that is Real is Forever!

    you testified, "We are only the walking dead because we have trapped
    ourselves in our illusions, and call them real."

    exactly and that is why you can not "see" the wicked, evil world for
    what it is, "d"evil's playground ;-( and those "of this world" are
    destroying Creation(earth/air/water/creatures) ;-( and "The Great Spirit
    is going to destroy those who are destroying HIS Creation"!

    yet, while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

    hope is you would separate yourself from the "We" that are "the walking
    dead" and experience The Miracle that is "receiving a love of The Truth"!

    Miracles do happen ;-) in spite of us!

    peace, in spite of the wars(spiritual and carnal) that rage....... francisco
     
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