There is no God

There is no god.

Prove me wrong.

 

Prove there isn't

 

As far as an elderly dude sitting in a throne somewhere, no.

But there is a God.

An endless sea of energy, where desire will create whatever you want.

To master no desire, is to own it all, and become God conscious.


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He who asserts must prove.

 

I dont have to, theres no proof that he does exist. So why should I try to prove something that isnt even real?

Thats like trying to prove that there is an easter bunny, Sure I can say a rabbit hands out chocolate once a year but we all know there is'nt.


God is just like Santa Claus, It Isn't real. Parents tell their kids that there is a santa claus so they have something to belive and look forward to, Just like God. Priests and Preachers say there is a god to people for a couple of reasons (mostly just for the money) and also just so people have something to belive in.

 

Santa's not real, you just ruined my christmas

 

First of all, science can neither prove or disprove God.

Second, what is God to you? If he's an old man with a white beard, than no that's not God.

Do you want to know what God is?

God is you, and God is me, God is the computer monitor sitting in front of you.

God is energy, and we are apart of that energy. We are our own creators, but many people have tuned out of their god consciousness.

Proof is all around us. It's too bad that people don't realize it.

 

Some matters are simply not measurable.

Many atheists would say that philosophy leads to no practical usage, yet they forget that science is indeed a philosophy that proposes that everything that exists can be measurable. Indeed, science has very practical usages, and it can be used to greater our understanding of our world. Does science weaken the usefulness of philosophy? No, because from philosophy comes the fundamental idea of science, and what it takes to measure the measurable; This should give validity that philosophy is not only dead, but very much alive, and very much useful.

Everything is measured up next to science, and if it isn't scientific than it is tossed aside. I think this is the wrong way to approach finding answers to many of life's questions. Philosophy, alongside other means, are great ways to answer these questions, and I believe it is important for us not to forget this.

Where am I going with this, is that everything that doesn't measure up to science is instantly shrugged off - Anything that doesn't follow suit to one way of thinking, is ignored. Knowledge can be found in more than one way, and not everything can be found through science, but by other means. Allowing yourself to realize this is an important step to a realization that there are indeed other forms of uncovering truth, and with this mindset, allows you to explore the realities of the transcendent.

 

I love how people can assert that there is no Sky Daddy god, but insist on a universal energy field type god.

Actually, it should be on anyone to "prove" gods existence, whether a Sky Daddy or an energy. God requires faith, and faith requires no proof. Faith + proof = lack of faith...

 

What atheists say philosophy is of no use? I would bet that a great number of philosophers were atheists.

Also, atheism as a belief (or lack thereof) doesn't support the supremacy of science over every human endevour. Ask most atheists, at least ones with half a brain, and they will tell you logic and reason win out over everything else...

 

You can't prove or disprove God, it's a matter of faith. There is thousands of years worth of faith in the world - not only Christianity but all types of religion/ spirituality, for many that is proof enough that there must be something. Or at least enough to make it worth looking into rather than dismissing it first hand.

Not everyone has the same idea about God, be it what He looks like or where He came from or what He wants, but if it helps people or makes them feel better ect leave them be!

I have doubted God's existance and tried to not be part of the whole Christianity thing - but as Christians know once your there it's pretty hard to turn round and walk away.

You may not believe in a God, but all I can say is that I am now a much better better person since I found God........ and if all it is a series of moral teachings........ so what??

 

I dunno, pretty much every atheist that I talk to believes that science overrules all forms of gathering knowledge.

Many see that God is a delusion (or 'relusion' as richard dawkin's has coined it), and give pretty failed attempts at reasoning why he can't exist like using the witless 'spaghetti monster' reference, or "I simply believe in one less god than you" - Oh how deep, Dawkins.

All the atheists I have talked to completely ignored philosophy, and believed that if it isn't measurable, than it doesn't exist, or that gives them reason to not believe in something.

It just seems that many atheists have a mental block, and what's blocking them is a way of thinking that I can't really pin-point at the moment.

 

hmmm.....that made no sense, but anyways is it just a coincidence that your username is Blackened or are you a MetFan?

 

The world was flat for a relative eternity. Before that the world was simply what you could see with your eyes and what you remembered... these ideals were held for millions of years... MILLIONS. God popped up "recently" and he popped up to answer questions that could not be otherwise answered. A scapegoat for all our problems, and eventually our savior from the problems we apparantely can't handle as humans.

Yea, god was invented by man, he is a philosophy... god can't be a philosophy, he must be truth... the man in the sky, energy, what have you... someone came up with all of those *ideas*. If you want the professed word of god ("translated" by none other than man!), read the bible/koran/torah/... (see my point?).

Just as was posted earlier, god is worth looking into as much as santa claus... someone obviously came up with both of them... although there is at least a "based on a true story" idea behind santa claus.

God "exists" only because we have yet to disprove his existance. God is *designed* to be a conundrum... but are you going to believe me when I say there are little green men living in another universe we have yet to discover? Would your first question not be how do I know? Would "i have no idea, but they are there" satisfy you?

God is not a he, or is he? I mean it, err.... see where I'm going?

By saying god is beyond our understanding, the question of why/why/how is unanswerable. There literally is no answer... nor can one ever exist. This is how faith has survived... yet those faithful to god will likely dismiss more answerable "mysteries" like bigfoot as hogwash. if you believe in what is truly unbelievable, should you not believe in anything? Again, that is by design.

Everyone, no, EVERYONE doubts the existence of god... it is not human nature to accept things without proof... we call that naeve. Its frowned upon everywhere outside of religion.

This is how god has survived the test of time. You just nailed it right on the head.

You told me god makes your life easier, ask yourself how. Answer all of your questions, don't be satisfied with "because of god".

Those series of moral teachings remove you from what may otherwise be a peaceful existence... religion breeds hatred - you must hate sinners, you must hate those that go against what you believe god wants... if you don't you are not truly a believer in god.

You yourself are in control of your life... if you were to sit and pray for the rest of your life... you would die from starvation. God would not save you, because he does not exist.

 

Believe what you want to believe! We will all die one day and then we will find out what happens!

Oh and Christianity does not preach to "hate sinners", it is sin that is not not the person. I have never met a "bad" Christian who hates non-believers, thats to me comes from the latter themselves!

The reason God can not be 'proven' is that He is so big!

Like I said believe what you want, but just as you appear to think spending a life believing and worshiping God is wasted, I think spending time argueing with Christians and trying to prove it all wrong - when no one can change our minds and hearts is a waste of time.

 

Fear hell maybe? You are confident in your assertions, but what reason do you have to believe in an afterlife?

Oh my... since when was christianity a tolerant religion? Read the bible, evil is all around you, you must fight against it. Sin is everywhere, inside of you, you must spend your lief expelling this sin to get into heaven.

Hate has many faces. It doesn't require action, it only requires the feeling. If you are religious, you *must* hate sin, and you *must* hate sinners. The bible tells you to love everybody, and hate sinners...read it. No it doesn't make sense, its not supposed to. Its not more than you can understand, its nonsense.

If you believe god exists you must also believe there is a monster behind you that only I can see and control... why? Because I said so, and you have no way of disproving me. You accept god so easily, accept ROHAN THE EVEEEL!!!! He's comin for ya. Why chance it? Believe me, give me the $5000 a month I ask for and live an otherwise happy life... it "could" get worse ya know.

So you openly turn a blind eye to reason... because you were told about some "big" guy who controls your life, and you can neither prove nor disprove? Because he will let you into a place after you die that you can't prove exists?
Honestly, take god out of that context and listen to what is being said.

Does it at the end of the day come down to what YOU believe? You are doing yourself a disservice by living the teachings of man, in preparation for something that probably doesn't exist.

How can you model yourself to a religion that has done/continues to do so many horrible acts? Why not develop your own model for a peaceful human being?

If everyone stopped worrying about the next world (the apparant eternity) and set out to improve the world we KNOW exists through peace and love, the world we are in right now... can you imagine how wonderful things could be!!!!

BUT, as long as people base their ENTIRE LIVES around questions that *will never* be answered, different people will answer that question differently, and inevitably hate/war/etc etc will ensue. I'm not guessing, I'm reporting the last few thousand years of our history... time to move on maybe?

TRUTH has no interpretation!!!! If we only seek truth we must all eventually agree.... peace is truth, peace is not professing to know the unknown, that is literally ignorance.

 

I can control my life, God has given me the ability to make choices, it is up to me how I use that gift. The world is broken because people are making wrong decisions.

I know what it is like to be an atheist, my family still are atheist. I have made the decision to believe in God because that is what I felt I wanted/ needed to do. I read the bible, I talk to many different people, both within the church and without and, you may not believe it, but I do question everything, I don't follow blindly as some 'brainwashed fool'.

And as for Christianity not being a tolerant religion - if you came to the church I go to, meet the people I am friends with, meet the Vicars, or even go to one of many churches in London/ UK you will find a big difference to the type of church that are more common in America. I ahve never met a nicer bunch of people, and no one would ever turn a sinner away or hate them, because we are all sinners.

 

With the word of god up for interpretation, I can see why... everyone will always be wrong, or right.

The focus must be on truth, on what we DO know... not what we can't answer... you can guess until your blue in the face, you can kick the ass of someone that doesn't agree, and you've gotten nowhere.

Or you can live here, now, and actually make the world a better place by being a peaceful person.

So you are satisfied with living your entire life on a maybe you'll go to heaven? On a maybe there is a heaven? Maybe is not truth... it is simply a maybe.

See, that is the central problem with the christian religion. It says we are all born in sin.

If you believe you are born in sin, it is acceptable to sin... just repent, and your conscious is clear. Sin controls your life by a set of morals passed down upon you. If you don't accept those morals how can you be sure your going to heaven?

While I, the person who does not believe in sin, must hold myself accountable for everything I do. I have nobody to offer my problems, I have to solve them. I see cause, I see effect... is my cause worth this effect. The good of all involved is my concern, not if I'm sinning or not.

Removing yourself from sin allows you to make decisions based on logic.

An example:
Sex before marriage.
Marriage itself is simply an institution, it does not indicate more than your willingness to enter it. That said, marriage or not, sex is best reserved for those who practice it safely and monogomously. Being with only one partner is out of respect - bringing a disease upon another person is a terrible thing. If both agree to have an "open door" policy, so be it... there is nothing wrong with that. Sex should not be forced or restrained, it should just occur, that is the natural way... although a little "restraint".... heh I'll leave it alone.

Basically a no harm no foul mentality, believing in sin does *not* allow for that. Drugs are absolutely against god... but logically, no harm no foul.

Do you see where I'm going? Living without sin is empowering, you are doing yourself a disservice by believing it, and running through uneccessary guilt.

I can clearly define cause and effect... you cannot clearly define sin... sin is a product of your mind.

If I ran through your church screaming and naked, then started to hump the priest... what would happen?

 

Yes I am a Metfan, and how does my post make no sense?

We are all basically energy.

 

Not necessarily. It's a matter of judgment.

I'm satisfied with a maybe. I consider myself to be in heaven now, and don't worry about an afterlife. "Maybe" is not truth, but it's the best any of us can do--bet our lives on the propositions that seem most plausible on the basis of reason and faith (intuition + taking a chance).

So are all values--products of human minds. But that doesn't minimize their importance.

You'd probably be arrested and hauled off to jail or the looney bin, or catch cold (or a worse disease). Your point?