there should be....

prison camps in which people are indoctrinated in everything from proper nutrition, the way money works, good food, proper health, art, science, etc.


and I'm not talking school, those fuckers have no teeth, the best thing they can do is send you home, I'm talking people who can execute real problems if it is absolutly nessescary, cattle prods are equicocal to detentions

sheer brain washing hell......



society softly brain washes people every day, hell may as well have a society that has the balls to do it overtly......

 

agreeed

 

explain to me exactly how you're brain-washed.

 

Ahahahahaahahah!!!

 

were the adams family

 

there are artifical influences poored into people every day, from phrases and words people pick up from popular television shows and current news events (how many people would say wmd if a certain republican think tank leader hadn't told rove that it tested better than any number of other phrases or abbreviations for a threat of nuclear or biological sort)

in the 1950's because of social pressures people married earlier, things like good houskeeping magazine told women "how to be good wives" in very specific procedural ways which many women followed, there are so many small degrees every day that society affects our behaviour, there are so many ways that it does it unnaturaly


announcer voices, have you ever heard a real person talk to another person in an "announcer voice" no because it would sound incrediblt patronizing, but when it comes from the teevee saying idotic things we accept what it says many accept it as truth unquestioningly because it is that particular tone of voice

advertisers have sunk huge amounts of money into what sorts of things humans react to positivly without even realizing that they are, boeing paid billions of dollars to make the boeing pull the triggers in the human brain that said comfort, GM paid billions to find out what americans wanted in SUV's and found out that we want intimidating vehicles, that's why almost all SUV's have tinted windows now

thousands of tiny ways every day........

 

All societies have norms, from the most primitive to the most westernized. Its hardly brainwashing, its human socialization.

And while advertising is amazingly annoying at times, it can hardly make you do anything against your will. It's not like your brain has outside controls.

Dave, you gots an amazingly dismal view of humans. I doubt it's all deserved.

 

I think you give humanity far too much credit on the whole


you cannot win an election without having some sort of extraordinary resources, the more the army spends on advertising, the more people sign up, there are studies that say advertising works, fuck why would companies spend so much on it if it didn't?


I find it funny that you say "the most primitive to the most westernized" as though western culture were the least primitive, the most advanced,


the fact that we haven't built a top ten super computer in ages (in computer terms) and that intel is the only company ever even in the running that counts as a western company despite the fact that the majority of their employees are not westerners

you can't say that is not some sort of product of some sort of PR that goes on every day in the western world

we are all just dogs, to feed at the ring of a bell....

 

omg...

fluoride in your toothpaste and water is believed to be a brainwashing material. D.A.R.E.
government propaganda-example: weapons of mass destruction
example b: those commercials that say pot kills you
got milk?-milk is actually pretty bad for you
amerikkkan history books- read the book "lies my history teacher told me" to enlighten yourself on that one
etc. etc. etc.

 

yer don't need prison camps......yer just need someone to change the scheduling on the telly

 

why not revolutionary skills and equality (not equal oppertunities, actual equality) as well?

 

because in my perfect society in which children are educated in a competitive prison camp manner (forgot to mention that living quarters and feeding schedules would be based upon achievemnet) you would also have something similar to communism in that everyone, everyone would be payed the same, but they would be forced to do a job, and they'd be forced to do the highest job they were capable of until a certain age, they would have to do a job that matched their personality traits (i.e. people who took personal pride in craftsmanship and tested to that level would be placed in workshops to build decorative houshold goods) in this way everyone would do a job they enjoyed and every job would be filled


why would they need to be taught revolutionary skills if everything were so neatly provided for them including a high standard of living, fulfilling work, incredible personal freedom and the ability to advance within the meritocracy


you would also once you had finished school you are rewarded for performance not connections, but quality of reports from an offshore auditing corporation of your work, national audits would be performed every five years

 

sounds pretty sweet



"Daves Republic"
"Chairman Daves Little Red Book"

 

Read Plato's Republic, if you haven't already. I think you'd like it.

 

I agree

 

Its like a cross between platos republic and chairman mao's little red book, thus my previous post.

 

Read "The Open Society and It's Enemies" by Karl Popper.

 

we would also have an enourmous arsenal including a weapon that would convert all the O2 in the athmosphere into ozone, thus the ultimate M.A.D. we'd have cheap respirators that converted the ozone back to O2 and thus we would be unopposed without a standing army......

 

Generations to come will recognise quest_techie as the father of benevolent fashism.

 

I'm okay with that......