This guy I used to go to high school with, I couldn't stand him. I'm sure I wished horrible things on him when I was a stupid kid and they found him today hanging from a tree. His Facebook had little hints from him leading up to it, so it's pretty certain it was a suicide. And I feel SO guilty for wishing bad on him, because apparently he got it pretty rough. I know I never did anything to him and had nothing to do with his life past high school, so I wasn't directly responsible, but I feel like I certainly didn't help with my negative vibes. It's silly, I know, it's just a really strange thing living in a small town and having a kid you used to hate kill himself. He had kids, he was just a year older than me. And I couldn't stand him, I won't pretend I even came close to liking him, but I would never wish that on anyone now.
I am, too. I just hope whoever he left behind keeps on keeping on. It bugs me when people kill themselves, I'm pretty sure whatever this kid was going through, he could've kept going and been alright.
I don't think you should beat yourself up over it... You had no ties to this guy, really...negative vibes and not liking him as a person doesn't mean you can't feel sympathy for him or feel the need to "mourn" a little because you knew him. You thought those things when you were a kid, doesn't mean you go around just hoping people DIE. A kid I knew hung himself...I didn't know him well, but he was a strange person, too. I often think about how some people just SNAP and do those things...
I know its horrible couple years ago these two girls fresh into high school i think they where juniors they decided to jump in front of the high speed train just tragedy
no good will come of pondering on guilt hun... kids are under a lot of pressure at school... the good news is that you survived i also think you got in touch with something very important due to this experience... self-reflection is a good thing... an opportunity to understand a little more about why we are like we are... :daisy: edit: sounds like i'm inferring you have something to feel guilty about.... i'm not saying that (just to be clear)
A lot of people I went to high school with have died. Wether it be suicide (one of my friends) or some freak accident, getting hit by a train, drowning etc.. its sad
Don't beat yourself up but we should always realize what power we have in out thoughts words and feelings. That old adage of "if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all" should also go to thoughts and feelings. No we can't be friends with everyone, but to hate...... it's become to easy to toss that around these days. I hope his family copes with their loss
I'm bewildered at the sheer amount of people I went to school with that have passed away since. So many kids I knew, so many siblings of people I knew, it's just incredible. I come from a really small town, so it always shakes the place up a little when a younger person dies. We've had quite a few go in drunk driving accidents, several drug overdoses, most every death was just just senseless.
I can understand the guilt When I was in high school I was playing hockey and this kid slammed me head first into the sideboards, I was pissed and I wished him nothing shy of the plagues of egypt - one week later I heard he took a header on a marble floor. I spotted him several years later walking down the street drooling with his mother holding his hand and his mind gone. Hotwater
It is tragic that someone feels that the only answer that there is, is to take their life. Hopefully those who are left behind who were close to him will cope with this and that they will not blame themselves. That you knew him is reason enough to stop and think. Not out of guilt but instead out of just trying to understand people and what choices they make.
I disagree, he may have had a perfectly valid reason for taking his own life that we’ll never fully understand, Hotwater
Its always so strange when someone like that dies. Someone you weren't close with but had some sort of strange connection, even more so when the connection is a negative one. There was this kid in 5th grade that made fun of me every day. He made 5th grade a living hell for me. He would tell me how much I disgusted him and how ugly I was...just really mean stuff. then in 10th grade I started to come out of my ugly duckling phase and this guy decided he wanted to be my friend. But i still HATED the kid; a lot of self esteem issues I had in high school were a direct result of how he treated me in elementary school. So I gave him the cold shoulder and was really mean to him, then he died a couple of years later. I've always kicked myself for not being more forgiving. You live and learn.
Agreed. A lot of logical thinking goes into a suicide many might not understand. Not all of course. Regardless about how much we might know of the situation we are still left in the dark because only he or the person understood what went on in his head and his reasoning for doing it. I think most people go down a long list of thoughts and if they get more x's than check marks they decide to leave us. You must respect their decision. I have lost friends and known foes who have takin their life. Its hard to think regardless who makes that decision to cut the corner to the deep unknown.
Hypothetically speaking if he was diagnosed with an incurable disease and in a great deal pain I’d have no problem with a licensed Dr. performing a Kevorkian :2thumbsup: hotwater
Indeed. I don't think this was the case, as it was just depression, but my mother-in-law's brother committed suicide several years ago after dealing with years of debilitating back pain that just kept worsening. His doctor wasn't doing anything to help him and wouldn't release his records to another doctor so he could get a second opinion, and it ended up being just no life at all. It took all he had that day to get his gun, and that was that. It hurt everyone involved, for sure, but they all understood.
yeah iam really sorrry to hear that..These things are never fun to hear...Especially with him having kids and all, thats awful...Good luck with everything
Why'd he hang himself from a tree? It's a cop out ending it anyway especially with kids, but at least make it look like an accident or something. They'll grow up with the burden of knowing daddy checked out early. My uncle shot himself when I was about 8. I was always told he had an accident while cleaning his gun. You can sort the truth out as you get older. It seems like even killing himself he did it in a "pay attention to me" attitude. Someone who went to highschool with this guy and hated him to boot shouldn't find out about something about this until the next class reunion.