Think I got fake "superrr pure" acid, help?

My girlfriend and I have tripped acid many times. We know what the psychedelic experience is, our max trip was probably 300-400ug each.

So the guy drops the L off.. saying it's 130ug per hit "family fluff" and raving about how ultra-pure it is and how it's not like other acid we've gotten because it's 'so pure'. Now I'm gonna skip straight to the point.

You know the REAL lsd experience? (I'm sure you do since you're here)

well this was ALL visual... it felt so fake, so foney... no spirituality... just total cheesey fake forced visuals...

We dosed at 9:30pm and we didn't get to sleep until around 1:30PM THE NEXT DAY. I was up all night, with a racing heart, no philosophical thought or any mind expansion. The stuff didn't even expand my mind. It made me feel drunk and stupid. My girlfriend and I both could tell it wasn't real acid and we couldn't even get any words out of our mouth because we were so dumb...and trapped in our tiny little heads.

An utterly TIRING and dissapointing night.

Now I know that acid changes effects with dosage and depending on who made it. But I know my LSD, and this was like a different chemical all together, like a chemical put out on the market by governments to try to get between people and the real LSD, as to make them say "Oh yeah I've tried acid, it was fun, but alright". Any thoughts? If this was really pure acid then it's weird... cuz making it pure took away all of the spirituality and good things about it and left me lying in bed for 15 hours straight with a racing heart (bored out of my mind) and trying to go to sleep to escape from the BOREDOM.

Sorry for the horrible grammar/paragraph composition, we just woke up from sleeping this shit off, I still kinda feel it, dosed over 24 hours ago...

PS. It sounded a lot like this test chemical that comes on blotter called 2C-B-FLY... I compared the symptoms/effects and it seemed to include lack of sleep and a lot of the visual aspects of LSD and nothing else.

P.S.S I did notice that it was easier to meditate on this drug, oddly. So towards the comedown (a good 10 hours) I started to meditate this toxin out of my body and that seemed to speed things up.

 

Oh yeah it was unperfed white on white paper, btw.

 

did u have, a ego softening? because the 2c series is know to cause these, not as much as Acid, as well, some people have said they can sleep on low doses of 2C chemicals. now i have to comment and say the first time i tried lsd it didn't get me a high at all, it was a regular looking blot. white on white paper. but no effect so i am considering it might be a 2c chemical but more unlikely probably. DOB, DOI. what was the size of the Blot? 1/4 like regular lsd blots. or more of 4/4?

 

It came on white on white, the hits were cut out but on average were 130ug per, probably 3mmx3mm or something like that per hit.

I was hot and stuffy. I couldn't think. I had no expanded mind, no racing emotions. I felt sober inside, bored, wanting to sleep. But I couldn't cuz the fake ass visuals were so intense. Everything had sort of a red tint to it and all straight lines were wavy. I felt confined confined to my brain and all i could do was lay there and be hot cuz my mind was so bogged down.

When i tried talking I probably sounded like.. "But I... this stuff.... where is my... call our dealer... you know..???"

this would be a great party drug for someone who wanted to party 24 hours on a weekend but I had no idea what I was putting in my system...

 

And no, I had no ego-softening. This wasn't psychdelic at all, it was almost intoxicating.

 

it sounds a lot like DOB now that I'm doing more research... definately a better candidate than 2c-b-fly

 

I would guess doi personally. All those things you've said have been said about doi before, almost word for word.

It's def possible that it was 2c-bfly though, but there are not too many experiences about that around. The whole haupt dying prob caused that. From what I know 2c-b-fly is more selective to the 2b and 2c subtypes. DOI is not so selective, so would explain any vasoconstriction/heart effects. (Though all psychs that I know of cause vasoconstriction.)

 

it pound's be 2c-bfly, if it's a small blotter size, because the effective dose is alot higher then what can fit on a, 1/4 acid blot. DOB,DOI blotters are usual 4/4 i find little bigger sometimes. 6/6 8/8 etc.

 

i recently got some lsa blotters. they are very clean and subtile, but very spiritual and natural feeling to them rather then fake.

 

Yeah, that makes sense if you only took one. Any of the fly's or dragonfly's. Or butterflies or lighting bugs...

Whaaaa?

 

no you didn't because the effective does of LSA, isn't enough to fit on blotter, sorry what ever you got isn't lsa, maybe LSD(if ur lucky)

 

More than likely the bigger blotter (like u said) and requires 2. I've read about it like three times before, but I didn't think it was real.

 

Yeah, I think floes knows his stuff. If he says he has had blotter LSA I believe him. I think it would be cool, I think I would stick to LSD

 

the effective dose is to big, to fit on blotter. maybe on a sheet. statics. each morning glory seed contains at least 10 ug of LSA. x 400 seeds for strong dose. would = to 4000 UG. or 4 MG. to big to fit on blotter.

 

Speculation is tons of fun!

Hipforums psychedelics section > Bl

 

I'm going with codmouse on this one in DOI or dom, doc or dob.

 

Actually according to google
1 microgram = 0.001 milligrams

4000ug X 0.001 = 4mg. Could fit on blotter. Sorry man you are just wrong.

 

ya i misscaulated, but it still can't fit on blotter maybe a sheet as i say, or a small sheet. lets take DOB, well the LD50 of dob is 3.5 mg. rather when dob is on blotter it is on bigger blotter usual 4/4. following along so far? so 4mg a good dose of lsa would most likely not not be on blotter, because u would need a lot of blotter to get high. statics 2, lsd blotter cotains around 50 ug of lsd per blot. now switch that lsd with lsa, and x it by 50. that's 2500 UG or 2.5mg plus 50 more 5.00 MG still to much for it to be on blotter. my point is made. it would be stupid and waste full of money to put it on blotter, that's why LSD IS on blotter it's cheap.

 

50ug is not all that can be put on blotter.
I am also not saying that a "STRONG" dose could fit on a small amount of blotter.
What would you say the dose of DOB on blotter is?
Even if it is just threshold, it is still 0.2mg. A light dose is 0.2-0.75mg
Let's agree that the average DOB dose on blotter is a high light does at 0.75mg. That means that regular or slightly larger blotter can fit that on it. Meaning to get active oral dose of LSA you would only need 2.6-6.6 hits of DOB size blotter, which isn't inconceivable. Also, if you figure that the DOB dose on blotter is higher than a light dose, then it would require even less.
Also "LSA is a naturally occuring psychedelic chemical with a potency 1/10 to 1/30th that of LSD" - Erowid.

I think my case has been proven that it is more than possible, and I think you are beign to quick to call a respected member a liar.

 

i never called him a liar, for 1, but the probability of that happening is unlikely and if i find something that i don't agree with i DON'T, and READ IT OVER I SAID that it is around 50 ug, WHICH IT IS. it can go from 0 ug to about 90 ug roughtly. and the point of the DOB LD50 being 3.5 mg the reason i said that is to say that of course there is going to be smaller doses of DOB on blotter because the last thing a dealer wants to get charged for murder. it's possible to fit it on blotter but the paper of the blotter would be to big. you can disagree i do not care if you do, because arguing with you is point less as i am not going to change my view and your not we should leave it there. P.S. lying is different then being a liar, a liar lies often.