This is fucked. I can't stop being friendzoned.

So I've read all this shit about getting out of the friend zone, appearing attractive and being flirtatious and shit. And it's no use. I'm fucking sick of this happening and I won't let it happen again. Most of my friends tell me to just ignore all that seduction and "let things happen as they're supposed to" and to be myself. But myself is someone who gets friend-zoned and I don't want to be that guy. Evidently I'm doing something wrong, but I'm probably just being too nice. How do I find a girl who likes my real personality without comprimising myself too much?

 

i feel for u, cuz yea it sucks to not know what u're doing wrong. and i suspect that since we dont know u personally and we dont see u interact with girls we cant really tell u what u should do differently.

so i'm just gonna tell u how i view some guys who happen to end up just as friends for most girls. their problem is that they just dont express their interest towards the girls they want. being nice, funny or friendly just isnt enough. u have to actually say that u want to be more than a friend. u have to be straightforward and clear about that. im not saying that hitting on girls heavily works all the time, but at least if its clear from the start that u're looking for a relationship/sex, girls will know u're not gonna settle for a mere friendship.

in my personal life, most of the guys i ended up sleeping with were hitting on me from the start. for example id meet a guy at a party with many pple and he would immediately talk only to me, conspicuously excluding everyone else from the convo, and ask for my number minutes after we met. that can come off as a lil aggressive, but at least these guys didnt become "friendzoned". (when it doesnt work we just disappear from each others life and thats it)

 

so many women will disagree with this, but whether they agree or not, trust me

treat them like an idiot. then fuck them.

 

Compromising yourself? What the hell does that mean

 

i think he means he wants to find a girl he can be a friend with, yet also have a relationship in a romantic sense

hence the thread title.

 

I'm a women and I don't disagree, there's alot of girls who like being treated like shit, and like when men are aggressive & straight forward towards them.I never understood that. But it do works.

 

The funny thing is that guys exchange that kind of advice all the time, congratulating each other on how clever their master plan is, and probably thinking that women have no idea how good they are at manipulating them... When at the other end of the deal theres us women, who dont even have to come up with any plan whatsoever, since men just flock to us with all sorts of pick-up lines.
Everyone wins in the end really.

 

attractive women are dumb as hell

if being stupid and getting laid is winning - god bless them.

 

well yes, obviously, getting laid is winning, thats what the thread is about, getting a gf/getting laid. Obviously it makes u very happy to say that attractive women are dumb, so good for u .

 

I dont agree

 

Saddest truth of all truths.

 

are you kidding?? makes me happy??? christ... get your head out your ass

i would love to meet an attractive, intelligent women.

 

it's not my fault women want to be treated like this.

 

No need to be aggressive.
u quoted me earlier, just to say that "attractive women are dumb as hell", i wondered what it had to do with anything i said. really, it had absolutely no relevance. so yea, i figured u just wanted to say that.
now im sorry u cant find an attractive, intelligent woman. that must be indeed cuz they dont exist. u know things no one knows, thanks for enlightening everyone

 

I am quite confident (yet confident with my awkward self, I've always thought this works for the hippie/hipster girls I'm into), and I'm pretty good at engaging in flirtatious teasing, but I don't want to be an asshole, nor do I want a girl who I have to become someone else for. Like there's a difference between being a nice guy who makes smart ass jokes at the girl's expense, and a guy who just doesn't treat them right.

 

i did not quote you. but i'm glad we finally agree they don't exist.


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Well confidence is a really good thing. Maybe u just have to be patient. like i said, its difficult to help with what u should do since we dont know u in real life.

 

u did quote me : http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/9364/forum2zv.jpg
to say something that had nothing to do with what i said.
I proved my point though, its funny that guys take a lot of pride in saying that kind of thing.

 

I don't think you have to be a different person to up your game a bit.

You say you tease in a flirtatious manner, could you give me any examples?

Maybe you aren't flirting in a direct enough way. Maybe you aren't moving in quick enough, and quite possibly, you aren't making any real clear, direct moves (i.e. offering to take a girl out somewhere nice, asking if they are seeing anyone).

Most people aren't very smart (male or female). You have to be real obvious about your intentions and desire.

 

i bet your already wondering what i look like naked.