Thought broadcasting

This is a common act with people who are paranoid/psychotic.

It's the sensation that people around you have a telepathic understanding of you.

It also can be a delusion, at least some of the time.

I've found through personal experience I tend to ignore the real occurances because they can be too disturbing and stick to misinterpretations, maybe this is because they have that doubt that makes me ok to think about.

Any way, I've found there is little out there about the reality that people with schizophrenia experience and was wondering what people who know what this is think about it

 

I dunno.
It happens to me almost every time I engage another person in conversation.
Want to know what it means?
That's beyond me.

 

I can hear other people's thoughts. Esp. When they are speaking to me. They'll be saying one thing, and I'll hear both what they are saying and something else jumbled up in their words. Sometimes people are very understanding; other times they are very judgmental. It's almost as though I'm so in-tune with my body language and the body language of others that it is being transformed into thoughts I can understand.

I hear their thoughts in their voices, and in no way do they seem to be coming from me. Even people on television -- I can hear people's secrets. But it's hard to tell what's true and what's not, yeah. I don't think it's my responsibility to deal with it, really. I just carry moving along. I think people think I'm strange because I'm such an understanding person, but what can you do.

 

I'm slowly making the change into being full on schizo, (un?)fortunately. If you look at it, scientists and doctors have no idea what it really is, just a big ole list of 'symptoms' and pills they can give you that just mess with your body and chemical balance so much that your mind is more worried about that.

I think it's really just the ability to interperet more than the normal person, which makes them scared. I can pick up on peoples thoughts, i.e. offering cigarettes just as someone goes to ask for one, etc. I try to broadcast my thoughts, but sometimes have trouble, or it might just be other people not picking up.

 

Yeah, psychiatry doesn't treat the issue scientifically. They just dismiss it out of hand. Maybe rightfully so, if they get people checking into their hospitals after having psychotic episodes. So the most important thing to remember is...never do anything crazy. Just observe.

 

My wife was very interested in my telepathic experiences, until I told her I was having a mental affair with another woman - then she suddenly decided I was delusional and pushed me into going to a counselor and a psychiatrist.

The psychiatrist tried two anti-psychotic medications on me, neither of which changed my ideation or perceptions.

My wife talked the counselor into diagnosing me as having "narcissistic personality disorder." This satisfied my wife, so she stopped attending the sessions and left me on my own to receive my "cure." But after a couple of weeks of my wife not yakking at him, the counselor concluded that I was not narcissistic at all, and he also said he had other clients who talked about having telepathic experiences similar to mine.

When I told my wife this, she insisted that I come see HER counselor, whom she was seeing to help her deal with me. So I did. Her counselor grilled me mercilessly about my "delusions," and then finally she told my wife, "I don't think he's delusional."

Yet I have seen my state of mind tend toward schizo-type delusion - not because I believe I'm having telepathic communications, but because I sometimes fail to do reality checks. I think that's at least one major definer of schizophrenia -schizophrenics make no effort to do reality checks, and simply accept whatever thoughts or perceptions enter their heads as reality.

My 14-year-old daughter, who is under psychiatric care, told her mom and me that while we were conversing with her, a nearby plant on the table between us created a thorny rose stalk and stung her neck with it. My wife and I pointed out to her that neither of us saw the plant do this, and yet she still had trouble understanding why her personal experience did not constitute "objective" reality. Of course, she IS just 14 years old, and still developing the brain structures needed for abstract thinking, so I wouldn't yet go so far as to say she's schizo, and neither does the psychiatrist.

My telepathic experiences, on the other hand, have been confirmed by participating people, on some occasions - not ALL occasions, but on enough occasions that I'm confident that most of my telepathic experiences that are similar to the confirmed ones are also "objective" reality.

But thinking about this kind of stuff can get very muddy very quickly. I keep going back to something my spirit guide Deanna told me in an e-mail one time: "Logic has nothing to do with anything." Put THAT in your pipe and smoke it.

 

My subjective experience of telepathy has been really embarrassing.

I think its all to do with what you present, and what you present is rooted in ones mood. Theres certainly the body language, the facial expressions, the tone, the stance, the reactions that can give you so much information...A friend once said he decided not to see auras anymore because he found them to be based on his on judgments of people and not as neonspectraltoast was commenting to be taken as truth.

That reading of people that is such a common ability, it's something that is remarkable beyond what is obvious. Yes if a sexy women walks into the room then you can bet that at least some of the males are thinking about her in a sexual way, but then theres also that insightful judgement without fact..mostly its just making shit up about people, and yet if you say it loud enough for them to hear then possibly they react and maybe even bite

This is the kick in the guts, when you thought broadcast enough people will pick up on it and work it to their entertainment. Maybe from their perspective you're someone who is out of place enough to be noticed and isolated from the crowd, a sort of gravitation of interest.

It's this attractive nature, drawing people into your reality and becoming intimate with them in a psychic sense that many people will find insulting, pathetic, weak, but then again if you work it right they find it overwhelming, controlling and influencing.

It's like your thoughts as so avid that people cannot deny them, and after a time people can become so involved that they are almost aggressive, in their eyes it is pre-emptive to push this person down

 

You do have to be careful. What's so interesting to me is that the thoughts I hear are totally abstract from what I would be thinking. I'm walking down the street by some old ladies and I'm thinking, "Hey, a couple of nice old ladies." And I hear, "He looks like a Satanist." And I look down at my clothes and I'm wearing a black shirt with Dracula's castle and a pyramid stud bracelet. I ain't no Satanist, old ladies!!

 

You won, huh, Zeng? lol

 

To an old ladie you probably are, Once I some how ended up in this random persons room, wasn't sure who the people were but eventually they gave me weed so it was kinda ok. Anyway as they were doing their weed thing they were talking about this 'guy' who suddenly turned up expecting free weed and once they gave it to him he kinda freaked then ran out the door...later that night they heard someone got raped in the park down the road. (thats all part of the story)

Anyway, I freaked once i had my cone (and they finished their story)..left and walked through the park to my home, its a park known for rapists (although most parks are i guess). Pretty sure i didn't rape anyone but there was an opportunity to. Maybe I'm fucked up for noticing the oppurtunity but its more fucked up that they talked about something that was possible (not probable)

 

I also agree with what neon just related in that often the thoughts I have picked up - that I know are not my own - are often quite contradictory to what I would have truly expected.
I'm thinking nice old lady - and she will turn around and snarl at me as she bumps me over to get ahead of me in line - as I "hear" her saying "I'll show you.hehehe" ...or the teenager I initially feel for shoplifts something for the "fun" of it, and "says" he dares anyone to stop him cause he's got the answer (a knife) in his pants. I did see this happen at a Dollar General here in town...he ran out the door and (thankfully) got away. A CD was not worth risking a life, not in my opinion.
Anyway - I don't think many people can accurately pick up thoughts, but I do think everyone "broadcasts" them...
I basically trust my inner guide; but just take the thoughts I pick up and let them slide in one ear and out the other...cause people are just about as fickle in their thoughts as they are in r/l. Also, this is an unbidden thing - in that I find it just "happens" and for me, anyway, trying to "pick up a thought" will usually absolutely stop it from happening!

 

Theres some cool proximity stuff we played with once...and chain effects,

like, if you're close (in any sense of the word) to one person...and they are close (again in any sense) to another person, then by proxy you can interpret them better.

I think its probably psychological, but being physically closer allows me to accept what I interpret from people. Maybe its just that my sub conscious can read the finer details better, and as you get to know someone you learn their tells....then when it comes to paranoid/spiritual people who are good transmitters (like myself) then they have characteristic patterns of action that are more distinguished than most

 

Exactly. Another clear example would be my dad one day...in the middle of what he was saying, I hear him say something like, "How about McDonald's?" And then, maybe two minutes later, of course he says, "You guys want some McDonald's?" My mind only burst open about...what, six months ago? This is pretty fun! What's also really cool is that...even people who have died, if I listen to them talking, I can hear them saying completely different things, as though they are talking to me in real time.

 

I guess I'm okay then, I'm not the psycho, I'm the one with the telepathic understanding of people around me.

 

Right on.

 

I realize that I am obsessed with imagining that I am psychic. I believe its just that my mind has attached to it so that it can feel safe, in some sense. Possibly so that my subconcious can have a reason to believe that I am special, to appease my subconcious desires to be approved by God.

I have similar experiences on ESP, but I realize more and more that it is useless to believe in telepathy, as a way to communicate with someone. However, what is really astonishing is the emotional effects it can have. For example, you get into an argument with someone, and whether or not you are actually having a ESP communication with them after this, makes little difference - the back an forth in your head still helps you make a mends with them. This is one of the reasons why I feel so compelled to believe in ESP and will be for some while, it brings with a sense of peace.

Also its a very good copping mechanism for a person who is hyper analytical and judgemental about their emotional state, as it deflects some of the comments as stemming from other individuals, which makes the person who is hyper judgemental feel a little better about themselves. As you can see I wrote this in second person and Ironically I just noticed this as a I finished. This shows that I obviously have some issues with being judgemental, ESP being a way to handle the shame surrounded with that coming from a christianized and culturally hyper judgmental world.

I also have experiences of random occurrences as well with thoughts that seem to abstract to be real, with loud voices etc etc. I recently just went to Mexico and these loud voices just ended - give or take, I probably just wasnt used to the types of things that I might be judged, the language and culture being different than here, my mind was simply more receptive of its environment, a new environment, instead more analytical like it is in this environment. What this means is that when in a new environment I imagine the mind is more receptive because we have minds inherently inclined with adapting to its environment. As children we blindly accepted everything in our environment mainly because of this adaptation mechanism. However, after a certain age, we are also taught to already have been adapted to our environment. This makes us more analytical of the dynamics in our country, instead of simply receptive. Analytical of a cultural environment would be best described looking to see which of the many good and bad cultural judgements about your identity, such as integrity or selfishness, graceful or fumbly, you are with some pushing towards the good. Receptiveness in a new culture describes when your mind attempts to understand what is a good and bad cultural identity. IE. In China when you belch at the table, it means little to anyone. It is a neutral thing to do and reflects nothing on their identity. However, in Canada belching at the table is one of the worst things to do always most be followed by an apology. So when in a new country, our analytical brain slows down and begins to receive these dualistic imperatives, which I imagine is the reason I do not get ESP in another country, but in my country, yes.

In a short reflection, if you consider how difficult it already is communicate with people using words and the many misunderstandings that occur, then telepathy becomes something useless in my mind. This goes especially while in public places and with people we have a deep connection with.

Great thread , I hope to see more from this as I have already gotten alot!

 

Telepathy isn't the same as verbal communication though. You can communicate in whole thoughts, ideas, instead of simple words.

 

Yeah I agree. I still believe that as a form of communication it still suffers from large problems in verifiability. Like its so hard to tell where it exists, especially because you can have thoughts that portray ESP characteristics which were never ESP to begin with.

 

i think people send their brainwaves out to one another sometimes. energy can move through solid matter after all. it's just my conclusion, does not mean you have to come to the same conclusion.

 

yeah that's true, though you can get a kick out of believing something simply because that person believes it. I imagine this is very important while trying to immerse ourselves into a new culture, as there is no room for reasoning on many if not most cultural ideals a society constructed.