Thoughts on legalizing pot

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  1. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    If pot does become legal, you know the government will take control of it and start selling it at pharmacies. They can't have all those dealers making untaxed money. If the government took control of it they'd create all these new laws for it's use, and they'd fill it full of formaldehyde and other preservatives to kill people off just like cigarettes. So why bother legalizing it? Why not keep it illegal and relatively harmless?
     
  2. itsallgood

    itsallgood Senior Member

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    Why isnt that happening? How long have we been talking about it?
     
  3. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    Why isn't what happening?
     
  4. sunfighter

    sunfighter Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    Look at California for a clue about what will happen. Will it be taxed? Certainly. The argument is that we will treat marijuana like we treat alcohol. I think that's a good thing.

    The government will not contaminate the marijuana. What was done to cigarettes was done by the private tobacco companies, not the government.

    In California, the medical marijuana dispensaries are working pretty well, I hear.
     
  5. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    "Laws", that is physically enforced statutes, are always counterproductive to some element.
     
  6. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    And who will pay for all the work behind growing and harvesting pot, the government? I think not. It will be issued to a few of the highest bidding companies. Don't kid yourself.
     
  7. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    So what's your stance on this? If you have one.

    At this point I don't smoke pot so I'm rather indifferent. But once and awhile it'd be nice to just go out and get some.
     
  8. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    If you grow it, use it, give it away, as long as no exchange of "money" is involved, then government regulation wouldn't be involved.
     
  9. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    Yea, but the idea is to legalise the market that is already there. I'd be willing to bet that the number of folks willing to give it away (no money exchange) is a VERY small number of people, if any.
     
  10. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    Yeah, that proportion is equal to those who realize that to give is to give to another as well as yourself. The free things, the freedom you offer returns embraced many times over.
    The fact is that markets are the problem with any impingement on human freedom. I don't think that regulating markets presents solutions, it only perpetuates disparities.
     
  11. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    Darwin award for stupidest OP of the day.
     
  12. sunfighter

    sunfighter Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    Right, the government should not be in the business of producing or selling drugs. However, now that the FDA has the authority to regulate the quality of cigarettes, it will also have the authority regarding marijuana. Hopefully, this will prevent private companies from adding shit to the herb.
     
  13. GlassMasta

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    how stupid can you be

    first of all, the current legalization bill in cali is to legalize is, not sell it at pharmacies. there is already a medical marijuana program where marijuana is sold at dispensaries, not pharmacies

    second of all, where do you get the crazy idea the government would put formaldehyde in it? you have no idea what you are talking about. if you are talking about tobacco, the government doesnt put that shit in there. the tobacco companies do. and they don't do it to kill people off. why would you kill off the people buying your product? it doesnt add up

    tobacco is legal, and regulated by the government. the tobacco companies still produce and control the product, they just have to abide by laws, most of all are about the distribution of it, not the production of it. you can go to a tobacco store and buy a bag of 100% natural tobacco. why would it be any different with marijuana? cigarettes have nasty stuff in there, but thats not the only way to purchase and consume tobacco. if people didnt buy cigarettes with nasty shit in there they wouldn't make it like that anymore

    so why not keep it illegal? uh because then people will keep going to jail for it. your just flat out wrong about what you think would happen if it was completely legal

    another thing, if california legalizes it one of two things would have to happen

    number one, they would have to get rid of their medical program completely

    or number two, they would not tax marijuana at all.

    why you ask? because the government does not tax medicine. in fact, you can deduct the cost of medicine on your taxes. you get what im saying here?

    either way, there is no way whatsoever any way you cut it, no ifs ands or buts about it, marijuana legalization for recreational use will make it cheaper, easier to get, and safer. all the people who think the government will put shit in it, and fuck it up are just ignorant about how industry works. the government does not produce shit, they regulate its sale. thats all

    private citizens or companies would still be the ones producing it, and its price and quality will be dictated by the consumer.
     
  14. WanderingturnupII

    WanderingturnupII Grouchy Old Fart

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    So, in The Republic, you are where, exactly? The cave of shadows?
     
  15. boguskyle

    boguskyle kyleboguesque

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    sorry to say lunar but that was kinda a dumb post. glassmasta is pretty much spot on about everything.

    do note the difference between decriminalization and legalization, what the government would do, where the bad chemicals come from, and the interests of each party's interests and how it affects the situation.

    by legalizing or decriminalizing, you are removing the laws, and in turn the enforcement of them and the drawbacks associated with them like waste of tax money, police brutality, unecessarily ruining people lives, increased crime in general, etc. By legalizing marijuana, we'll simply be stopping our country from fighting itself.
     
  16. mulliganman

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    Not to mention it would cut back on smuggling from Mexico!
     
  17. GlassMasta

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    i bet you anything once weed is legalized countrywide the market will be almost identical to the beer market

    youll have your cheap, low quality, mass produced marijuana products (like your budwiser, coors, pbr, etc) and then youll have your small specialty growers making new strains, offering higher quality products, albeit at a higher price (just like craft brews)

    as you go into a marijuana mart:

    "what would your recommend?"

    guy behind the counter presents a box with vacuum sealed tray inside, with clear plastic window to view the bud:

    "here we have a nice late harvested, 2009 cured, pure indica with a strong cappuccino and honey flavor. 22% THC with a smoothness rating of 78 ISUs"

    "well i plan on smoking this in the morning, you think that would be a good idea?"

    presents another box

    "here we have a standard harvest, full cure pure sativa, strong bubblegum and banana flavors, a little lower on the THC scale here at 17% with an ISU rating of 84. this particular brand is on sale for $79.99/oz"

    "that sounds perfect, ill take two"

    i cant wait lol
     
  18. boguskyle

    boguskyle kyleboguesque

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    i know i'm in the Stoner's Lounge, but holy shit
     
  19. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    YO! I got a coupon!
     
  20. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    Point well taken. But unfortunately we don't live in a world that really advocates peace, love, oneness and freedom.
     
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