torrent uploaders

so these people are like heroes. i wanna be one once i have an income cuz there is quite a bit of music that i can't find on torrent sites, especially electro house stuff, but i know that that's when the major risks come in rather than just leeching.

i dont even have to necessarily have to buy the music too because a lot of music can be downloaded on a media-share website like Rapidshare. but these slow down your comp and u risk viruses. i would like to help the p2p network at least in that way.

would it be evil to use my neighbor's wifi that doesn't need a password? hehehe

 

Is this just one question? I'm not really sure what the ethics of using your neighbor's wifi have to do with torrent seeders, but my answer is: no it's not evil. They're asking for it. If they don't like it, they can get smarter.

 

If you do this, you are putting your neighbor in jeopardy of being accused and sued for illegal "sharing" of copyrighted material and the settlement usually amounts to about $3000 for each tune. Would you be willing to pay this?

You aspire to be a thief. Somebody ought to tell you.

 

i'm glad someone replied.

ya i'm well aware. it was kinda a joke because i know that uploading from which ever wifi you use, you're easily identifiable and the most at risk.

lol.


my real question here is, anyone else aspire to be an uploader to support the torrent network? and are there ways to beat the system? i'm no hacker but im sure there are ways.

for example, there is a famous uploader named aXXo who uploads a large number of movies all in a legit high quality. how does he continually do it?

 

You make it sound like it's a heroic thing to make it harder to make a living as an artist or musician. Wake up, man. Time to create a world that works for everyone.

 

axxo always has the best quality too

I wouldnt upload a full complete file ..its not worth the risk

 

Actually not. It can still be traced to a specific machine because the router logs the MAC address of the NIC.
Routers use the MAC address to identify a hardware device on the network, then assigns an IP address to that MAC address.
MAC address is hardcoded in the NIC and can't be changed.
So even if you do use the neighboors wifi and the FBI shows up at his door, within 30 minutes they may be knocking on your door.

 

p2p-ing is kinda like smoking weed, everyone does it but the laws need to acknowledge the numbers of everyday people that do it. as it may take SOME money from artists, it is not them i stand against. i stand against a system that only creates corruption, greed and just problems in general. and technology has shown us otherwise.
technology is able to record a piece (even create a piece), multiply it, spread all across the world, and archive it for who knows how long. that is either a gift to us humans, or a weapon to hurt eachother, all depending on the politics.
artists are still absolutely making money by live performances and that's not going away anytime soon.

 

dang. well how about if someone were to use a remote desktop from another location? so when the FBI come, its an empty house. thats taking into account that i can somehow be untraceable from the remote desktop. or maye able to shut it off?

and i just read that most likely aXXo is a minor. once he turns 18 he'll be more likely to be found.

not that i would actually do it, but if there is a way to be non traceable, what would that be?

 

I owe these anonymous heros a great deal of respect as well, thank you brave persons!

 

No, it isn't. When you smoke weed, you only affect yourself. If you steal from artists and musicians, you are hurting them and enriching yourself.

 

Their artists, I thought they did this for fun?

 

you obviously didn't get the comparison.
and weed doesnt just affect yourself, it affects the dealer, and in turn the economy.
i dont think millions of people being enriched over a few people being enriched is wrong.

and rudenoodle provides a good point. if you are an artist for career or money purposes, i wouldn't call you an artist

 

I think you have a weak sense of right and wrong. You are trying hard to justify your behavior of stealing from artists and musicians, but it doesn't fly. Rudenoodle is a joker.

You don't seem aware of how many deserving artists and musicians are struggling to catch a break and are being hurt by the many like you who justify theft. Just because technology makes it easy, doesn't make it right.

 

'it doesn't fly' is not much of an argument.
the p2p network is only a branch of my ideals that i uphold. i'm against business, and actually the monetary system in it's entirety. its not the justification following the behavior. the industry(ies) need to bend, or at least flat out change entirely to suit technology, because if it doesn't, people will only further hurt eachother. and rudenoodle may be a joker, but he's right.
and most of all, these artists are still making money by performances!!!

 

And how much does that cost now days?
music cd's have come right down in price since file sharing but live music has gone up.

Proxy server that dont keep records is what ya need so ya ip wont appear on an upload or download chain but i'm sure there's ways to force such servers to reveal you unless its based in a lawless country.

 

I think you make arrogant assumptions about people you know nothing about.

I'm not trying hard to justify my actions, I stand by them and if Sony or Via com disapprove I don't care.

Obviously you think that an artist record sales envelope their salaries as well, you are mistaken, anyone will tell you money is made by touring and performing, and it is the record labels that keep the majority of the cash made by the dieing business of record sales.

A racket that has done much more to hurt musicians than you seem willing to admit.

No, it makes it inevitable.

 

i would like to thank the people dumping and uploading game roms, you make my emulators possible, thank you.

 

Torrents have noble applications but downloading copywritten material for your own entertainment is not one of them... whereas someone wanting to access or upload sensitive information anonymously in countrys like China or Iran (for instance) where simply viewing a website could land you in jail, is.

Great musicians and composers devote their lives to music, sweat, blood an' all. They lead complicated and often troubled lives, something you fuckin' self entitled punks would obviously know nothing about. On top of everything else artists must deal with, you fuckers ripping off shit is certainly not helping.

True, musicians no longer can make money with cd sales, thanks in part to illegal downloaders
But the idea that live performance makes up for it is just fucking naive.

Fact is, there are more bands now competing for less gigs than ever.

Nationwide,there are fewer venues presenting original live music today than there were 10 years ago.
Fewer venues means fewer paydays for musicians; most musicians report making the same or less money now than they did 10 years ago, even as the cost of living in music capitals like Austin has doubled. (Commercial real estate agents say commercial-property rents downtown have nearly doubled since 1996.)

Musicians used to be able to pay the rent with a part-time job and devote a lot more time to practicing and performing, but now with cost of living and rents so high, musicians have to work full-time just to pay the bills. That leaves a hell of a lot less time left for playing music. With fewer clubs nurturing local talent and fewer musicians with the economic flexibility to concentrate on their music, club owners say their fan base is shrinking.



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It seems as though half the posters in this thread think music, art whatever is something that someone needs monetary dollar profit for producing, it doesn't it's a luxury, no one is forcing them to play the banjo it's their choice.

You act as though by downloading music from the Internet you are performing the equivalent of snatching dimes from the hat of the local street performer, and used the defense that it was stealing from the artist more than once, when in actuality it is from their recording companies, the same organizations that get nearly all there profit from CD/ Online sales leaving the artist with a signing bonus along with a contract they must be a slave too in many circumstances.

The artists make there money performing concerts, support them that way and leave the record companies marginalized.