total newb

thetrees · Jan 22, 2010

i have yet to try dmt, but my buddy and i have talked about it for some time, now. he had what he now realizes was a natural dmt trip when he was about 12, and we've both read a lot on it and feel like it's pretty key that we try it.

any tips? i was hoping there would be a sticky or something for people new to the world of dmt, but i don't see one.

drew5147 · Jan 22, 2010

What the fuck is a natural DMT trip?

matt2993 · Jan 22, 2010

lol yea what the fuck, that sounds like it could be one of the dumbest things i've ever heard. he thinks he had a dmt trip without using any actual dmt and has never actually ingested dmt to compare that 'natural dmt trip' to?

Or should you just explain this a little bit more

And from what I can tell, there aren't really tips to give you. i mean it just sounds like you're curious about it and just need to look up information on it. also check out the forum dmt-nexus.com and read stuff on that forum

FritzDaKatx2 · Jan 22, 2010

DMT is produced in the body naturally and gets released in certain "extreme experiences". So OP's friend could be quite correct.

Read somewhere on how one of the potential triggers for this is Earthquakes and author went on to correlate that to religious experience in the way which everytime God would speak, the earth was shaking,,, I dunno... Interesting concept that either religion is based in hallucinations or that DMT really does tap the Godhead,,,

drew5147 · Jan 22, 2010

Idk, natural DMT trip sounds like a load of shit to me..

FritzDaKatx2 · Jan 22, 2010

Wikipedia said:

"Dimethyltryptamine or N,N-Dimethyltryptamine (DMT) is a naturally-occurring tryptamine and psychedelic drug, found not only in many plants, but also in trace amounts in the human body where its natural function is undetermined.",,, "Several speculative and yet untested hypotheses suggest that endogenous DMT, produced in the human brain, is involved in certain psychological and neurological states. DMT is naturally produced in small amounts in the brain and other tissues of humans and other mammals.[30] Some believe it plays a role in mediating the visual effects of natural dreaming, and also near-death experiences, religious visions and other mystical states.[31] A biochemical mechanism for this was proposed by the medical researcher J. C. Callaway, who suggested in 1988 that DMT might be connected with visual dream phenomena, where brain DMT levels are periodically elevated to induce visual dreaming and possibly other natural states of mind.[32] A new hypothesis proposed is that in addition to being involved in altered states of consciousness, endogenous DMT may be involved in the creation of normal waking states of consciousness. It is proposed that DMT and other endogenous hallucinogens mediate their neurological abilities by acting as neurotransmitters at a sub class of the trace amine receptors; a group of receptors found in the CNS where DMT and other hallucinogens have been shown to have activity. Wallach further proposes that in this way waking consciousness can be thought of as a controlled psychedelic experience. It is when the control of these systems becomes loosened and their behavior no longer correlates with the external world that the altered states arise.[33]

Dr. Rick Strassman, while conducting DMT research in the 1990s at the University of New Mexico, advanced the theory that a massive release of DMT from the pineal gland prior to death or near death was the cause of the near death experience (NDE) phenomenon. Several of his test subjects reported NDE-like audio or visual hallucinations. His explanation for this was the possible lack of panic involved in the clinical setting and possible dosage differences between those administered and those encountered in actual NDE cases. Several subjects also reported contact with 'other beings', alien like, insectoid or reptilian in nature, in highly advanced technological environments[21] where the subjects were 'carried', 'probed', 'tested', 'manipulated', 'dismembered', 'taught', 'loved' and even 'raped' by these 'beings'. This is most likely due to set & setting of where the experiments took place. Many people who use DMT outside of a laboratory never report any of these types of experiences."
Click to expand...

So as they say on that pasta sauce commercial "It's in there".

Wizard_of_Hawse · Jan 22, 2010

I believe it

Give it a go and double check:cheers2:

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dmt/dmt.shtml

FritzDaKatx2 · Jan 23, 2010

"The pineal gland is a cone-shaped pea that sits on the roof of the 3rd ventricle of the brain, directly behind the root of the nose (3rd eye chakra) floating in a small lake of cerebrospinal fluid. It is our body's biological clock and has been called a window of the brain because, as with all mid-line structures bordering the 3rd and 4th ventricles of the brain, it doesn't have a blood-brain barrier. Instead it relies on a constant supply of blood via, considering its miniscule size, a particularly rich vascular network. It was considered for many years to be as redundant as our appendix but this theory is brought sharply into question because, in our body's infinite wisdom, the pineal gland has been supplied with the best blood, oxygen and nutrient mix available other than that received by our kidneys! It acts as a receiving mechanism capable of monitoring electro-magnetic fields and helping align bodies in space. With its central hormone, MELATONIN, the pineal not only regulates sleep/ wake cycles and the aging process, but also appears to act as the Mistress Gland (sofia)* orchestrating the body's entire endocrine system and thus, energetically speaking, the chakra system. I believe it is also responsible for shamanic states, visions, kundalini e.t.c.

The pineal gland is unique in that it sits alone in the brain whose other parts are paired. It is the first gland to be formed in the foetus and is distinguishable at 3 weeks. When our individual life force enters our foetal body at 7 weeks, the moment in which we become truly human, it passes through the pineal and triggers the first primordial flood of DMT ( N-dimethyltryptamine). Later, at birth, the pineal releases more DMT . DMT is also capable of mediating pivotal experiences of deep meditation, shamanic states of consciousness, psychoses, spiritual emergence and near death experiences.

The pineal gland begins to harden with calcified tissue starting at adolescence. These strange calcified deposits between 3-5 mm are called “brain sand”. There are asymmetrical crystals in the pineal gland that are ‘piezo-electric' - that is, they send out electronic voltage creating EM waves. Whenever a person is exposed to an EMF (electro-magnetic field) such as that of the earth the gland vibrates, sending out EM signals to the rest of the body. When the pineal gland is stimulated geomagnetically it produces alkaloids similar to plant psychedelics. Any strong change in the earth's EMF will produce a rush of psychedelics in our bodies enabling us to be more psychically active in shamanic states (earth/ land receptive). The pineal gland is effected by coherent EM fields and it changes its hormone production when exposed to EM at low levels. As the earth has the greatest effect of any force on our physiology it makes sense that the cells of our body and brain align with it. All life within the envelope of earth's vibrational influence attempts to match base-frequencies (entrainment) with that of the earth. To this end, each of our cells is constantly shifting patterns of energy to achieve harmonic resonance with the reference signals of our earth. Our bodies are truly amazing and they are intimately co-dependent with the earth and all its inhabitants. Our bodies are miraculous organs of phenomenal complexity and awesome ability. We are made up of multiple trillions of molecules, each vibrating with its own intelligence, all interlinked just as our universe is interlinked and interconnected. We reflect the whole. A picture may be beginning to emerge as to how we reach shamanic states through the wisdom of our body in tune with the earth.
Click to expand...

http://www.bridgeofstars.co.uk/pineal-gland.htm

ANC · Jan 23, 2010

if you had a natural DMT trip, you'd report yourself to the nuthouse as soon as you come down.

Closest I get is when I think about it, my nose would fill with the smell of DMT, I'd get goose pimples and all the joy I get from the DMT state, but NO TRIP.
I think its simple pleasure by association.

Mr.Writer · Jan 23, 2010

Strassman's theory of natural DMT trips has never been shown to be true and there is not one instance in recorded history of a verifiable case. It's a nice theory but I don't think it's true. Shame that it's spoken about like a fact.

Log in or Sign up

total newb

thetrees Member

drew5147 Dingledodie

matt2993 Member

FritzDaKatx2 Vinegar Taster

drew5147 Dingledodie

FritzDaKatx2 Vinegar Taster

Wizard_of_Hawse Member

FritzDaKatx2 Vinegar Taster

ANC Member

Mr.Writer Senior Member

Share This Page

Log in or Sign up

total newb

thetrees Member

drew5147 Dingledodie

matt2993 Member

FritzDaKatx2 Vinegar Taster

drew5147 Dingledodie

FritzDaKatx2 Vinegar Taster

Wizard_of_Hawse Member

FritzDaKatx2 Vinegar Taster

ANC Member

Mr.Writer Senior Member

Share This Page

Useful Searches