Transcendentalism

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  1. Colours

    Colours Senior Member

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    Anyone that knows about nature in regards to transcendentalism and nature in regards to Grapes of Wrath, i would like to chat =D i just have one or two simple questions
     
  2. Colours

    Colours Senior Member

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    My main question is, Transcendentalism holds nature as sacred and the other half, shal we say, of the universal soul. In Grapes of wrath, however, steinbeck paints a very bleak picture of nature. In the book, nature takes on an overall negative aspect. Since i am trying to relate Grapes of Wrath to transcendentalism, i am wondering if there is a link between Steinbecks use of Nature and the view of Nature in Transcendentalism.
    Any thoughts would be appreciated.
     
  3. Death

    Death Grim Reaper Lifetime Supporter

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    Ummm i dont have a fucking clue what youre talking aboout man. You might have better luck in the philosophy and religion forum
     
  4. Colours

    Colours Senior Member

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    ok nature cannot exist without man and man cannot exist without nature, so both are connected by the universal Over-soul. Nature is beautiful and to connect with nature is to complete your individual peice of the over-soul. So in transcendentalism nature is basically good and beautiful, but in the grapes of wrath nature is depicted with dust storms, hot deserts dividing the Joads from dalifornia, and rain at the end when they cannot find a place to sleep. It seems like Steinbeck is implying man against nature. Nature constantly tries to hold man back, but man must overcome nature. I dont know how this fits into the transcendent view of nature though... maybe it doesnt, i would like it to though.
     
  5. Colours

    Colours Senior Member

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    in the beginning two men are in a truck, and bee flies in through the window- the driver "gently guides the bee" into the air flow out of the window. THen in the next chapter there is the description of a turtle trying to make it across the road. As a truck approches (i think supposed to be the same truck) the driver swerves to try and hit the turtle in the middle of the road. Im not sure what this is about.
     
  6. Ash_Freakstreet

    Ash_Freakstreet Hmm.... GROOVY!

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    Yeah, I read Emerson in high school, but I remember very little.

    I also read grapes of wrath, but I can't make any connection whatsoever.
     
  7. Colours

    Colours Senior Member

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    ah well, it is 3 15 am, i finally finished my paper, it is 2 1/2 pages shorter than the requirement, and ive got too much adderall in my system to sleep, so it will be like going to school twice in one day. yay.
     
  8. happyhippy9797

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    Why can't nature exist w/ out man? I think it would strive w/ out man
     
  9. Colours

    Colours Senior Member

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    the way i see it, humans are built to experience nature. All of our senses, etc. Without man there is nothing to differentiate between cold and hot etc. So without human touch there really isnt cold and hot, since man gives names and characteristics to such things. It exists, but it would have no meaning.
     
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