Transhumanism: inevitable or evil?

(or both)

Transhumanism is, roughly, the belief/school of thought that human beings can and will take an active role in the alteration of themselves and the species. It's the idea that we should take evolution by the horns and become, as people, as a society, and/or as a species, whatever we want to be.

This could include but is not limited to genetic engineering, body modification, and cybernetics.

Now for some people this sounds like the ultimate sin. From a biblical perspective that's probably true, seeing as the creation of man was kind of God's domain and He has been very clear about His opinion of usurping his status. And from a practical standpoint, anything that could permanently alter the species is pretty dangerous.

On the other hand, when has man ever not used the technology available to him in any damn way he pleases? Morality is moot if it's going to happen anyway, and it could ease the suffering of those with physical impairments. More to the point we could all eventually become healthier, more efficient, smarter people. There's some really amazing possibilities down the road.

 

This will happen one day

It is not an if

Genetically engineered soldiers will likely be the start of it

 

i don't remember god ever saying that it's wrong to improve on his work (he may have said that, but i don't remember it). he just doesn't want you worshipping anything other than him.

he did give humans the mental capacity to improve their situation, so as long as they do so while still living under his rules, i don't see why living a good christian life and improving the human body have to be mutually exclusive.

the people saying that god is against these things are just politicians, not the actual voice of god.



also, i don't believe in god at all, so this whole argument is kind of meaningless to me. i'm all for the advancement of science. i just don't really understand why god is even brought into the argument for the most part.

 

(A very intense man is talking in front of a fish tank, gesturing wildly - Eamonn Healy, Chemistry professor at University of Texas at Austin)

 

God will not save people from wrath whether they believe or not

Humanity is his failed experiment if he is true

If he is not true than it is moot

 

inevitable, because humans are curious creatures, and most humans want nothing more than to advance/enhance their lives, whether it be enhancing their comforts or the longevity of their life.

we started fucking up evolution when we started using medicines and such....is it evil? i don't really know what evil is, unless you are referring to how the Bible would condemn such things...i guess it depends on how it is used...if it is used against other human kind, defintely evil....but other than that who is to say? but by all means it is inevitable

 

That was somewhat incoherent at parts but a very interesting school of thought

Did you witness this or is it out of a book?

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saxX-Z6w3p4

 

I love that movie. I've only had a lucid dream once, the night I watched that...

anyways, regardless of whether or not it's a bunch of superstitious bullshit a lot of people are swayed by religion. And I can see it now as if it were on TV...some conservative politician rallying for a bill to ban cybernetic enhancements or pre-birth genetic conditioning...

Granted, you can't say that it's all just a peachy idea. I've never seen the movie Gattaca but I'm familiar with the concept: the rich clone themselves and select ideal traits while the poor do it the old fashioned way, meaning that the rich get smarter, more attractive, stronger and stay rich, etc. etc.

 

Its been going on for quite some time. Moot topic.

 

Vaguely. Eyeglasses and braces and pacemakers are cybernetics, sure, but nothing to get worked up over.

My main concern is whether or not we can get thought digitalized before my brain starts to go.

 

Transhumanism isnt just about the mech tech...its also bio tech... so vaccinations come under "transhumanism".

so...not "vaguely" , we are well on our way.

 

Hmm, I hadn't thought of vaccinations like that. But it fits to a T.

If you want to be really broad, you could say that language is, as a refinement of thought.

 

I don't really care what gods or bibles say about this. As far as I am concerned its another step inevitable step in our advancement. And the promises are too great to let it go...From cancer cures to living hundreds of years, who would not want that?

 

I don't care if it happens, but I think it's evil to insist that it apply to everyone. Because there is always the possibility that not transforming one's self can produce its own positive changes that couldn't come through transhumanism.

Looking far into the future, just how technological do we want to become? I say "we", but the thing is we really shouldn't speak of our species like that. If some want to become robots or be uploaded into a computer, that's fine. I'm happy just being human, myself. I'll never be chipped or anything like that.

 

it's just a matter of being careful what we wish for. right now our thoughtlessness is destroying the only planet the humanity of earth has to live on.

do we need more intelligence? or simply to use what we have more wisely?
i can't answer that, but there's a lot of things we can do, or will soon be able to, with the shape and appearance of our bodies, that is certainly a lot less harmful to the world we've been given, whatever we've been given it by, then the way our thoughtlessness of using our technology to try to impress each other, or destroy each other, or destroy each other TO try and impress each other, has already been doing.

i think people like to make a big deal out of things, because, well, they want someone else to be their imagination for them.

instead of trying to hide strangeness by paving it over, and then having this mysterious craving that is so widely attempted to be denied as a resault, we simply need to not be turning to arbitraryness and expecting gratification from it, where it is not.

 

Trans humanism is inevitable and evil.

In truth there is quite a lot going on right now.

Only the rich will be able to afford it. It is not intended for public use.

Personally I am not into it.

I am okay with getting old and death does not scare me anymore.

The immortality that the powerful seek is Maya, an illusion that does not exist.

 

Actually it does exist on some level in several animal species.

 

transhumanism is just a modern word for eugenics.. when eugenics became controversial the proponents of it just gave it a new name..

nothing new and it is indeed a sinister thing..

 

Then the sun explodes.

Everything is an illusion. There is no immortality on the physical plane.

But rather than asking you what animal is immortal or what this has to do with the topic, I am just going to say...

I do not quite understand. But I am a businessman and not an expert at the topic at hand.