What you need is a 1 foot cutting of your favorite trichocereous cactus. Cut into 4 three inch cuttings. Then cut off the dark green edges and toss away your whitish cores. Blend into a puree with a blender and simmer in a pot over medium high heat until flourescent goo turn into a dark green liquid. Using a baking strainer filter out the chunks of cactus flesh and simmer on low heat until you have about 6-8oz of huachuma. Go camping or get out of town for the day into a secluded wilderness place. Partake of the huachuma during the day in the presence of nature.
No offense, but you know youre doing it wrong when you have to smoke weed to get an effect. Weed is classed itself as a mild hallucinogen so... Obviously, if youre hip deep in san pedro you can prepare it any way you want. Even with 2 feet. Most recommend 12 inches fresh, or at least 30 grams dry (which is 120 grams wet). Curiously, there are a LOT of different ways offered to get an effect from mescaline. Some indians say boil it for 12-24 hours. Other indians say boil 4 hours then eat the green layer and wash down with "tea" from 4 hour boil of green material. Others say too much boiling reduces effects by destroying mescaline. Some say its the waxy skin and the white material which contributes the most to being nauseous, some say boil the whole damn thing, some say a little bit of lemon juice, some say 30-50%... Tomato, tomahto; potato, potahto. My research is 3 weeks deep and still going.... Ya get the feeling extraction isnt maybe really as hard as it seems?
SWIM has found that weed can double the effects of cactus. SWIM has found the taste of dried or fresh cactus is now ok with him. SWIM loves even a tiny amount of cacti.
I've found boiling for 12+ hours, straining, then boiling the liquid down to goo you can roll into little pills works fine- nausia isn't that bad. Trichoceus bridjesii (not sure of spelling) is the strongest column cactus I've eaten. And no- I didn't need to smoke weed to trip.
I recently got 900g grams of dried powderized San Pedro from Peru (for incense). First I mixed 35g with OJ... I wanted to kill myself, but I could tell my taste buds were already dead on the inside,... it was worth it over the next 12 hours =D. But now I'm using the rest by doing a 5-pull 91% IPA extraction do get down to the gooey freebase. IPA extractions are super easy, and very handy with anything where you just need to reduce plant matter: e.g. LSA seeds, cacti... All you need is Isopropyl Alcohol, big glass jar, big glass pan, and a old t-shirt. Just make certain you let the IPA evaporate completely! (If you don't have time to do a full evaporation, use Everclear instead of IPA. It's more expensive, but you don't have to worry about poisoning yourself if you can't wait the IPA to completely evaporate.)
trip field notes 4-12-07 Ok my ego got in the way for awhile. I posted that extraction method for psychoactive cactus juice! All I wanted was some reliable extraction method on the internet in which to prepare the cactus. ( the juicer method! ) I have found pachanoi growing throughout my town. Recently I found a patch growing near my work in rainbow. I decided I would graduate myself to a 2ft trip. I have been working with 9 - 12 in cuttings and measured the ratio at 1 ft pachanoi = 1 hit of qaulity acid. Well anyhoo! I fasted for two days eating only dinner at nites. ON the third day first thing in the morning I chugged the whole 8oz which was the equivilant of 2ft of fresh cactus skins with the dark underflesh. 45min later it kicked in. All of a sudden Im feeling sick in the bathroom! Then Bam! Mescalito came and judged me unworthy! He told me how I take things for granted and that even though I seemed humble and was more humble then others I was still disguising myself uncontrollably. I hadn't figured the variable of puking up my medicine. Mescalito said that I was only allowed to see so much of him today. So I took it with a grain of salt and accepted my fate, knowing that I didn't leave mescalito empty handed. I had a most theraputic day that day. spending time with my son. hugging him and not taking him for granted. Texting love letters to my wife. praying for forgiviness of sins and confessing how bad I really felt about so many things. I realized that mescaline was the perfect drug. It was constant, pure, powerful, healing, and a fortifier of the heart. Shroooms seemed flighty and mischievous compared to mescaline. ecstacy seemed harsh. LSD to edgy. Mescaline seemed so perfect. No up and down just constant. The conclusion to my experiment and to which my ally spoke more about with me, was the reality of taking steps in entering the spirit world with mescaline. 1ft at time = 1 step at a time. I would recommend dosing footers like 1 an hour, to allow the digestive system to absorb the mescaline without putting such a shock to it. peacefullness e!
what a horrible way to treat a plant you call a "sacrement".. I eat peyote how it was created. With RESPECT, and it RESPECTS me back.
I never have a problem getting the medicine down. And I prefer to eat it green without any manipulation of it. The word "shaman" is a asiatic (siberian/tuvan/lapland... think santa claus) word not used by indios. Ya'll get very mixed up and confused. That's the problem when you get think one way applies to another way and then all of a sudden it's a big dollop of mixed up goo~ I'm a Peyote Eater... I've never boiled peyote, and that is not how I was taught to prepare tea . I don't "grow peyote" either... it lives at my mothers house, as where I live, it's north/ north-west facing... The Medicine that was gifted to me to take care of and that now blesses my Mother's home-place, comes directly from the Gardens. Sorry to sound so abrasive. I just get tired of reading all the druggie-head b.s. (and I impulsively posted my impression) If that hurts your feelings I apologize, AND you need to know how offensive you are being... When I eat peyote, a offer it up to the Creator and am grateful to have an opportunity to help myself and maybe get a blessing from it. So that I can in turn give back the best of myself to this creation. Sacrament= sacred... treat it that way and perhaps you'll be blessed. I will ignore your advise as I don't have a hard time EVER eating peyote, I feel joy. There is a saying: you make a sour, ugly face at the Medicine, it'll make one back at you. How one approaches intention will get back what they put out. Yes I know you were referring to another type of Medicinal Cactus. And you referred to it as a SACRAMENT... so I responded to how I treat my SACRAMENT. And yes I EAT IT RAW! And if you are referring to the Carlos Castenada books: they are all FICTION. But it is well known that the Castenada books are fake and you can't gain the Red Road from a book anyway. It's not a convenience spiritual path that is easy to pick up and put down like a book. It is a way of life, that is right living and SURPRISE: Sober. The Fireplace that I grew up around came from a Cheyenne Medicine Woman. It is now care-taken by a man. He behaves himself and conducts himself around the Medicine with RESPECT. Sure, powdered Medicine and Tea, and Slurry are a common routes of partaking in the Medicine .But we used RESPECTFUL methods to achieve these forms. Green Medicine is always preferred. NEVER EVER do we use or mix Marijuana with Peyote. It's against the Medicine and Peyote DOES NOT LIKE IT. The Medicine is not a being of intoxication, but of healing and power. If you should up at a ceremony high, they'd not allow you near the Medicine, and you'd be asked to leave. It puts the Sacrament in jeopardy as we've had to go to courts to have our "freedom" of religion. And the DEA & FDA categorize our Holy Sacrament as a Schedule 1 narcotic. How do you think that feels like? Not so very free. We had to dig deep into our pockets (some went to jail) to get help with the lawyer and it was scary. We have to always be vigilant of oppression coming in the form of federal prohibition, but it was a necessary challenge, as there isn't a freedom of religion in these country for folks if the Red Road. I just need you to be clear. And be careful. I have seen similar paths like yours end up with a less than desirable endings. I care that these sacred plants get abused... It has impact on the Sacred Web of Life and the Universe. I want you to have great blessing in your life, we have enough of needless suffering. I'm confused about this "self righteous hippie " thing is this supposed to make me feel bad? Is this name calling or fragile ego posturing? Grow the F up.
peyote has a lower fecundity than san pedro, therefore, I am apt to be more considerate of l. williamsii; not to say that t. panachoi isn't sacred. in some tribes, it is. mescaline is a very unique substance, that, contrary to the current governmental regulatory schedule of C-I (something that makes no sense to me, and I am greatly opposed to), may indeed have medicinal value. Cat. III (same as ketamine) would be a more reasonable scheduling. i'm not exactly a hippie, but I do believe mescaline shouldn't be abused. It's not a typical euphoriant "drug".
The deep secret of cacti is in low doses they combat depression and lift spirits and give energy with no "high".
Hm, so I just prepared some San Pedro tea, and I boiled it down to a small amount of liquid (to make it easier to drink). It's really dark...brown and can not see through it. Any comments on this? Normal, strange? Did I fuck it up?
nope, that's normal. you can't fuck it up by simply boiling water, mesc has a much higher b.p., and won't degrade at 100 C.
Holy shit. Just mixed some of the brown juice with some sugar, honey, cinnamon, allspice, and nutmeg....and that shit tastes TERRIBLE! OMFG. I'd heard that it was bitter, but shit.
Yah. It would taste better coming out of your ass. Heres fingers crossed that at least YOU actually get significant effects. Id love to experience a good M trip before Im hospitalized with one "gastric disturbance" too many...
Well, I injested what I calculated to be half of one dose. In retrospect, I probably injested about 1/4-1/3 of a dose. I drank it and took a nap, woke up with no nausea, but definitely intoxicated. I had no real open eye visuals, but a lot of things did look somewhat strange. Close eye visuals were pretty decent. Felt very giddy and strange. I will consume about 3x as much next time, and will get back to the forums on what happens.
Im talking about neo~shamanic entheogenic sacraments. Whether its the daily bread of cannabis. Or the use of salvia as a new world entheogenic sacramental medicine for the everyday seer. Or the use of ayahuasca, magic mushrooms, psychedelic cacti, or the new alchemists LSD-25, MDMA, or plant extracts. No offense to the ancient ways of this ladies beliefs. She is obviously a follower of the great grandfather peyote. We are mostly white devils that pilage and plunder the lands. Unless people are waken from their dreams into the great dream of everyday reality. They will all go on living in the machine and the fashions and behaviors deemed fit to partake of regardless of circumstance. Unable to let go or even know they need to let go. The new seers of casteneda are alive today. It isnt the story as much as it is the terminoligy used to describe the altered state or the second attention and the effect thereof for the new seers. The stories are great and very entertaining. But there is truth in fiction. Were the stories of mythology real? Yet they were the basis of ancient beliefs. They spoke of truths in deceptions.
Maybe not everyone is as obsessed with "mother earth" and nature all and that stuff. Don't get me wrong, I love nature, but I won't hesitate to boil a plant to make it more fun for my ingestion. It's very good to hear that someone has as much care and respect for the earth, but it's kind of sad that you can't seem to just accept how others choose to use the plant. It doesn't feel "so very free" to have someone as religious about drugs as you telling everyone how to act. To you, it is a sacrament, to others, it is just a plant to use to see stuff. My suggestion is to just chill out about it. There are a lot of religion forums here on HF, go there and talk about it. The Mushroom Man
