trump: Murderer and Destroyer

Discussion in 'Politicians' started by Barefoot Scott, Oct 21, 2025.

  1. Barefoot Scott

    Barefoot Scott Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    trump directed the CIA to destroy boats from Venezuela without first inspecting them for drugs. So far, 37 people have been killed.

    trump tears down East Wing for a showboat ballroom. The wing dates only to 1949, but the White House as it has come to be recognized NO LONGER EXISTS.

    karen leavitt, the 20-something press secretary, should leave it.
     
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  2. Twogigahz

    Twogigahz Senior Member

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    I don't know how that little bitch can sleep at night with the constant bullshit and lies she has to spread every damn day. However, she, being just his type, has lasted longer than most of his press secretaries.
     
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    Trump just demanded $230 million from the DOJ to compensate him for the investigations into Russian influence and Mar a Lago classified docs case, because it disturbed his fucking privacy...

    And get this, his former personal lawyer is the person who gets to approve or deny the payment. Trump continues to rip the American people off!
     
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  4. Barefoot Scott

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    The Supreme Court has become The Suck-Up Court.
     
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  5. Barefoot Scott

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    t...p just bombed ANOTHER boat, this one in the Eastern Pacific, not the Caribbean. No report yet of casualties. The Murderer continues.

    Presidents assume the permission to murder on colossal levels. The atomic bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki; the Native Americans and Spanish/Nexicans murdered in the name of Manifest Destiny (the Alamo), and so on.

    THIS IS WHO WE ARE! PAY ATTENTION!!
     
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  6. Toker

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    I think that is what really motivated the antiwar movement in the sixties, besides the drafting of millions of young people.

    It was the loss of innocence of a generation, suddenly realizing the USA is a violent, racist, misogynist, yet Christian country, whose hypocritical values became so apparent.

    That was the change we sought in the 1960s. As you can see we ultimately lost as we do every time a Republican leads us.
     
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  7. thepapasmurph

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    Can you think of anything praiseworthy of any Republican president since the 60s? Even the crowning achievement of Nixon as opening relations with China - and look what that's brought us. A world superpower economically and militarily!
    Any of them were decent men, and I believe they were in their gut emotions. Clinton caused more moral issues than anyone since Kennedy.
    Our generation has seen incredible times, terrible upheavals, and strides towards equality. It is sad to think that our children will be the first generation in generations that may very well be worse off financially than their parents' generation.
    That's what Trump has given us, that and destruction of our White House to make way for his guady ballroom.
     
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  8. Etherea

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    It is becoming harder and harder to believe that there are at least some decent, honourable people walking the halls of power.
     
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  9. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    The atomic bombs were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki with the consent of the UK due to the Quebec agreement.
    It was ordered by General Thomas T. Handy, not Truman.
    It was conducted because an invasion of Japan would have resulted in 1.7 to 4 million Allied casualties and 5 to 10 million Japanese.
    The decision to use an atomic weapon was made by the Interim Committee, made up of James F. Byrnes, Ralph A. Bard, William L. Clayton, Vannevar Bush, Karl T. Compton, James B. Conant, and Henry L. Stimson.
    The committee had been formed at the suggestion of the Manhattan Project leaders. Truman merely went along with the findings of the committee.
     
  10. MeAgain

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    Clinton was involved in a consensual act. The morality of it should have been determined by his wife, Lewinsky, and himself.
    It was used as an excuse by the republican party to hurt him politically.
    He did nothing illegal, thus not immoral in the eyes of the law, and was found not have committed perjury nor obstructed justice.
    The Clinton moral issue was caused by republicans, not Clinton.
     
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  11. Barefoot Scott

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    "would have resulted" is a projection, NOT fact. Nobody can accurately predict even tomorrow.
     
  12. Twogigahz

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    We could play the weather man thing here...."it might rain, or it might not".
     
  13. Piobaire

    Piobaire Village Idiot

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    Small potatoes. In 2018 alone, Trump's criminal malfeasance resulted in 461,000 preventable American deaths from COVID 19, making the American death toll the worst in the industrialized world.

    As catastrophic as his vandalism and wanton destruction of the White House may be, it pales in comparison to the violence he does on a daily basis to democracy and the U.S. Constitution.
     
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  14. Piobaire

    Piobaire Village Idiot

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    Rex non potest peccare.
    Trump vs. United States, 2024, 603 U.S. 593
     
  15. MeAgain

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    Of course it's a projection.
    So is the statement, "The sunrise tomorrow in Washington D.C. will be at 7:28 EST. "
    It may not, as the Earth may blow up, the Sun die out, the obit of the planet change, etc...

    Projections are valid when based on known facts and observations.
    Operation Downfall (the invasion of the Japanese home islands), was not implemented due to the fact that the Japanese knew how the plan would have to be implemented due to geography, the time needed for the invasion to succeed, and the need to capture airbases for support in China and Korea. Just one arm of the invasion, Operation Olympic on X-Day, needed to assemble 42 aircraft carriers, 24 battleships, 400 destroyers and destroyer escorts, air support from the Fifth, Seventh, Thirteenth, Eighth, and Twentieth Air Forces groups, as well the British Tiger Force, and fourteen divisions just for the initial landing. An operation bigger than D-Day, which used 12 divisions.
    Operation Coronet, on Y-Day, needed to aid Operation Downfall, would have been larger with 45 U.S. divisions.
     
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  16. Barefoot Scott

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    Prezactly!
     
  17. Barefoot Scott

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    I cited merely this incident; each one adding to the Jurassic horrors this thing commits daily, hourly. Small potatoes indeed, but more people murdered cannot be so summarily dismissed.
     
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  18. Barefoot Scott

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    You merely confirm my point. Some projections are more accurate than others (otherwise, why scientific/medical journals?). Innocent people still die.
     
  19. Toker

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    The US was not really in good enough shape to do anything other than bomb Japan. The war had limited what the US was capable at that point.

    The firebombing bombing of Tokyo was a horror unto itself, only to be overshadowed by the nuclear bombs.

    The Tokyo firebombing, specifically known as Operation Meetinghouse, occurred on the night of March 9-10, 1945, when the U.S. Army Air Forces conducted a devastating raid on Tokyo, resulting in the deaths of an estimated 100,000 civilians and leaving over a million homeless. This attack is considered one of the most destructive air raids in history, causing extensive damage to the city and its infrastructure. That caused more deaths than either A bomb.

    Don't forget, Japan didn't accept the warning about a new powerful weapon, so they bombed Hiroshima. They didn't surrender after that, so they bombed Nagasaki.

    If they hadn't surrendered after that they were told Tokyo would be next. So the decisions weren't all from the allies, Japan made fateful decisions that left the US little choice.
     
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  20. scratcho

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    Ain't life grand? The actions of humanity are so continually admirable.:flushed:
     
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