In an ideal world, where perhaps tryptamines were available to choose almost off the shelf, which would you guys say would be the one to go for, were you only able to get hold of one... If, hypothetically, i had the choice of getting 5-MeO-MIPT, 5-MeO-DIPT, or 5-MeO-AMT, which would you say gave the best trip, not too heavy a body load, and set one up for some crazy hippy adventures? Many thanks, Tokes
All of these have a significant body load, but most people would probably prefer 5-meo-dipt while finding 5-meo-amt horrendous. IMO none of these compounds will provide you with what you are looking for. Anyway, you should really do some research and decide for yourself.
Both 5-MeO-DiPT and 5-MeO-AMT have killed people. Many people believe that sticking a 5-MeO on anything will make it more or less horrendous. You really need to do MUCH more research, as taking too much 5-MeO-AMT could really kill you or put you in the hospital quite easily. Don’t look at the world as “OK I can get these three, so I am going to ask some strangers what is best for me.” I B
I have done a lot of research, trust, but there seem to be so many conflicting descriptions. For example, some people find 5-MeO-MIPT to be very visual, while others say it is has no visuals whatsoever. Some say AMT is knightmarishly intense, whilst others say it is chilled and good for hanging out with friends... Perhaps all this is is an indication to the different effects from person to person, and underlines the importance of dosing properly. I understand that they are different drugs, and I would tend to go for the MIPT because people have reported a lesser body load than some of the other tryps. the DIPT sounds pretty trippy, but yeah kind of intense, and from reading about AMT it seems that this is perhaps least like what I would be after. I like the sound of the two stage trip of MIPT, first like MDMA, then more shroomy and psychedelic. Just wondered what your guys thoughts were on any of these for a first time theoretical researcher... It was certainly not a cry of "I'm a fuckhead, which drugs do you guys think I should take"... I just wanted opinions of the chems that I listed. Thanks, Tokes
I hope you know that DIPT, AMT and MIPT are very different to their 5-methoxy counterparts. If you do it would be prudent to use their full names to avoid confusion. TBH I have never heard anyone describe 5-meo-amt as "chilled and good for hanging out with friends...".
Yeah, my mistake, sorry I should have refered to them in their full names, I am of course referring to 5-methoxy compounds for all three... "Good for hanging out with friends" Is it? I dunno, you tell me http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=22632 Tokes
If you and your friends like to projectile vomit and shit everywhere while you chill, sure. It's great for group body waste expulsion.
I prefer, and think most people would prefer the 4-hydroxy variants on the tryptamine base. For instance, most people prefer mushrooms (principle chemical being 4-ho-dmt) over 5-meo-dmt. I personally find 4-ho-mipt and 4-ho-dipt to be quite enjoyable. Or you could just try to find some good cid.
What? Are you illiterate? I was comparing the effects of the 5-methoxy variant versus the 4-hydroxy variant of DMT, in order to give the OP an idea of the differences in effects (to a degree) of the chemicals he was interested compared to their less intense relatives. And what are you talking about in the second to last "sentence."
... I was suggesting that he choose one of the 4-ho varians rather than the 5-meo's as he seemed to be looking for a more "fun" trip, which I think we can agree 5-meo-dmt is not.
I would agree that, in general, the 4-ho-substituted tryptamines are more likeable than their 5-meo counterparts, except possibly for 5-meo-mipt. I enjoy 4-ho-mipt when I feel like a deeper, more intense trip, whereas I prefer 5-meo-mipt for a more stimulating, recreational trip. 5-meo-dmt was a disaster for me.
5Meo-Dipt was my first thing I ever tripped on (lighter dose of around 12mg). I had a pretty good time, but remembered slight senses of paranoia, or something always being out of place (confusing discomfort). It was stimulating however. I wouldn't recommend ever dosing ever 20mg. I was with an experienced tripper who tried that to experiment, and from what I understand was quite daunting, and rattled his cage a bit. He was almost completely disassociated, and unaware of many surroundings (like friends talking in a group). 4-Ho-Mipt is a pretty powerful one, blurring the lines between LSD and 2C-E in my opinion. It's more of its own category, but quite potent, with strong visuals and headspace. If you've ever done shrooms or LSD, 4-Ho-Mipt is a definite one to try.
