Two Rules for Piscean Life

Be submissive to everything.
Accept loss forever.

 

the thread title should be...


"Two rules for wussy bitches..."

 

What is a wussy?
Everyone eventually loses, everyone eventually dies.
Even you.

 

Could the OP explain more please?


I'd like more of your sound advice.



(I'm pisces, virgo rising.)

 

These are just two principles that I have found inescapable during my life.
And it is the acceptance of those two rules that allows me to be at peace with your rejection of what I have to offer.
All the best~

 

Your first rule is just an ego trip -- the "poor me"/"whipping boy" mentality. It's also an ego trip that you deviate from regularly.

Your second rule, however, though often times more emphasized for Pisceans, is universal, as you yourself alluded to in your response to mmg (which by the way was a non-submissive response ).

We can all benefit from the acceptance of the inevitability of loss.

 

And here you present me with yet another choice, submissiveness and the acceptance of, in this case, a correction, or rejection of what you are trying to say in favor of what you are correcting.
So if the first rule is just an ego trip, then why does ever interaction unfold this way?

and we live and we learn

I dunno, many people seem to gain.
As for mmg, I am aware, and am also not perfect.

 

what are you saying all pisces are doomed to be miserable for there whole lifes?

 

I'm actually saying this is how to avoid misery.

 

i know that but are you also saying pisces are meant to be miserable

 

....i said that where?..

 

Interactions unfold in the way that you describe because you are trapped in a feedback loop. You behave in a certain preconditioned manner that's designed to yield a certain result, but because you can't identity the true source of that behavior, you remain surprised when the result with which you are presented is unchanged -- and the cycle becomes self-perpetuating.

Indeed, except that in your case, you have (tentatively) chosen the long and arduous route: having conviction in a lie because there is too much fear to face the truth.

It's a paradox: you lose because you lack the willingness to.

Again, conviction in ignorance.

 

I dunno, aren't you trying to win here?
What if you lost?

What lie?
Whatever truth you are alluding to, surely it's only recognized as true, after an exhaustion of "falses".
Long route? Maybe.
Best route? I think so.

Doesn't everyone?

That I'm not perfect?
Surely I can't be if so many people find two statements on my half to be so disagreeable.

 

If I lost, your suffering would be compounded.

Exactly -- the only problem is that instead of exhausting the falsehoods, you're empowering them.

I'd be willing to bet that at this point you don't even believe yourself anymore -- and with good reason.

Lose because they lack the willingness to? Not nearly.

By conviction in ignorance, I was referring to the fact that you're striving to attain a state which is inherently self-destructive and unnatural (i.e. total submission). But the belief that you're not perfect fits as well.

That's because you're under the impression that deference to the status quo is a desirable quality.

 

So in other words I was right all along, the answer is to lose.

Dunno Travis, I can say with certainty that I have always chosen the hard path in my life, for the sole sake of experiencing the hardships first hand. I think it's necessary to truly understand anything, you gotta go through hell to get to heaven.

Well according to you isn't that the only reason for loss in the first place?

To me it seems like the constant ping-pong match and desire to forever and always come out on top quality of human interaction is what is really self-destructive. For me, anyways.
As a teacher, what I have to say is rejected and not considered legitimate. Attempting to teach in the face of this just pains me. This is why I think I am the eternal student, and why I am slowly considering submissiveness to not only be healthy, but necessary. Submissive to anything that has something to teach, which is everything, submissiveness that was not present in those that I have tried to teach in the past, thus, clouding their capacity to learn.

Judging by what I've seen of the behaviors of the "status quo"...
Well, I'm sure you know what I mean.

 

You do have a gift for miscontruing, don't you?

And I think that this is a rationalization for suffering for the sake of suffering.

You've gotten ensnared in the paradox.

I agree. Which raises the question: Why do you keep succumbing to it?

You're confusing submission with receptivity.

Yes, but your behavior isn't aligned with your ideals.

 

no neo no... 2 decisions for pisces when they cant decide over1. alcohol or 2. falling in love

but thats a easy one for me

 

It's all about ego with Pisces.... they always need to feel right and feel like they have followers otherwise they get all freaky and suicidal like this. Can't stand em.

 

I'm really fascinated with how so many people continue to interpret two simple statements such as "be submissive to everything and accept loss forever" as "freaky and suicidal".
If anything, I would say that it is the inability to accept loss that causes someone to become suicidal, not the opposite.