Vegatable's HAVE RIGHTS TOO!

Everytime I see my Veggie friends going on and on about NOT Eating Meat and The Poor Animals you all make me wonder about The Vegatables Rights.
What is that all about?
Well I understand your thinking about not eating meat and the poor animals that are all killed to feed the Meat Eaters.
How the animals are alive like us and have rights etc.
Then I think well what about the poor Vegatbles rights?
After all using The Vegan thinking whouldn't they also have rights?
I mean you all go on and on about the poor animals BUT what about the plants who give up their lives to feed you all?
You must all be very in tune with the Earth and how EVERYTHING has an Energy or Spirit.
So when you rip that Lettece from the ground and END IT's LIFE-what do you all think you are doing?
I don't know any VEGANS who even say a little fucking Prayer for our GREEN Brothers and Sisters??
Do ANY of you GIVE THANKS for that Plant giving up it's life for your Obsessive Vegan fad right now?
So aren't you ALL a BIT Hypocrites when it comes down to your Life ending rap on the Animals?
If you understand that the Animals have feelings etc....don't you think that lettece does?
So I'm wondering here how you all sound like bullshit on this LIFE thing with Meat.
I think you guys are just as bad eating plants.
So yes let's open this thread with that question......
ALso Don't even fucking think of posting on here that the plants have no feelings and are not just as alive as your animals.
It's proven they do have just as much feelings and also have their own lives too.
STAY ON TOPIC!
So come on----let me see how you answer this question my Vegan Buddies!

 

Drop dead.

 

lol Wow that was real articulate!
Another person with a sharp keyboard and views but no photos to back up who they are on here.
STAY ON TOPIC! LOL
We will all drop dead someday..some sooner then others.

 

If you're not a fruitarian, you are the biggest hypocrite on here right now

 

How so? I didn't claim that I was anything. As a matter of fact, I eat meat, veggies and fruit. We didn't climb to the top of the food chain nibbling on roots.
But BEFORE I eat anything I give THANKS to it Whether it be Meat-Veggies-Fruit or even the water I drink.
MY POINT in this thread is to POINT out that EVERYTHING that WE consume has a SPIRIT and it is giving it's life so that we might thrive.
So i'm just wondering why I NEVER hear of the Vegans giving thanks and also acknowledging THE FUCKING PLANT WORLD!
So look at YOUR Fucking Signature-I thought you knew all this?
They offered Life in Sacrifice...So that Others could go on?

 

So, because you have never seen or heard a vegan say thanks to the Earth out loud, they are ALL ungrateful? I always try to think of the earth when I go about my daily routines and activities. The Earth is a beatuiful place, NOBODY wants to see it destroyed (well, there might be a few...) but don't go around calling people you don't know or haven't met hypocrites because you do not understand how they might truly feel

 

you dont have to kill cucumber vines or fruit or some other things to get grub. seems if you just direct your intentions into most vegetable plants before you pick them, they dont mind givin their life or a piece of themselves up at all cuz their just that high. i do say prayers for the ones i dont grow sometimes though when i feel like i should, which is probably not as often as it should be.

pluus plant farms dont pollute nearly as much as factory farms. the pig and cow ones anyway, which are what i am most opposed to. humans are obviously meant to eat plants, and vegans are arguably more grateful in that they chose to live with a higher vision for this earth than most meat eaters. they see something that obviously incredibly immoral and wrong and chose to protest it every day, which is a bigger accomplishment than some people ever even achieve in their lvies if you ask me. sure its not the highest vision of transcending killing anything at all to get by, but its much higher than any meat eaters vision who often gives no thought at all to the evil corporations they support when they eat. vegans question things, and many start ot buy organic food and therefore respect the earth and better human beings that much more. humanity has a while before they all turn into fruitarians i think, but i think vegans more often than not, have more love in their life than meat eaters, which is really what being grateful is about right?

 

No.

Animals have rights because they (1) can feel, and (2) are self-aware.

Plants have no central nervous system and have no faculty for feeling whatsoever; they grow the way they do simply because of the chemistry involved. For example, plants cannot *choose* or *will* to grow towards light, they ALL do so, because of the chemistry involved, not because they want to or because they need to.

By spirit, I assume you are referring to a "soul" or "lifeforce" of sorts. I don't even believe that humans have such things, why would a vegetable have them?

And even if you do believe that, there is no evidence that humans or plants have them; using the argument of a "soul" or "unseen energy" that cannot even be suggested with any sort of evidence to exist is basically like saying "oh you shouldn't cut grass because *unicorns* eat grass." No, we can't prove unicorns don't exist either, but there's no evidence suggesting that they do, so there is no point in planning to compensate for that aspect.

A bold personal attack.

Regardless, the biological purpose of both animals and plants is to reproduce. Part of a fruitarian philosophy is, if you eat the plant, you must replant the seeds to ensure that it fulfills its purpose. The best way we can give thanks is, likewise, by ensuring the plant's reproduction. And I don't know about you, but I have a garden in my back yard where we do just that.

Nope. Lettuce *sic* shows no signs or biology for having feelings. Nor does doing damage to a lettuce plant have any adverse non-biological effect (i.e. psychological damage, etc.).

Then prove it, because it most certainly is NOT proven. Go ahead, prove to me that plants have a nervous system, or for that matter, ANY kind of instance where plants react to "feelings" or "will" something to happen.

Even if that WERE true, veganism is about being as MORAL as possible. We all still need to live, you know, and I'd value the life of a sentient being more than an unsentient one. Thus, we limit our consumption to unsentient things.

Even so, that point is almost irrelevant because plants most certainly DO NOT have feelings.

Prove it. Or can't you? Believe me, the Catholic Church has been trying to prove that souls exist forever. You aren't going to exceed any more than they have; and they've failed miserably.

Also: Please do NOT take my post personally. I didn't take yours personally. But I must argue with you because you're insulting all vegans and vegetarians, and being a hypocrite at the same time because you eat meat and all the things we eat. And even worse, you're coming to a vegetarian board and being argumentative rather than respectful; this is OUR board, not yours to tread on however you please. [Hypocrite.]

Edit: Beyond that, if you are so "thankful" as you claim, why don't you take the extra step to ensure that the animal's biological purpose of reproduction is fulfilled before you kill it? Don't talk down and preach to us if you're guilty of things that are far worse. Murderers ought not to lecture on morality, as the saying goes.

 

Is there an award for stupidest post ever? I'm not sure if the OP would quite make it, but he'd definately be a contender.

 

Ah, his post isn't that stupid. Misplaced and annoying, perhaps, but I can think of plenty of other stupid posts.

 

That's the worst of it in a way. I don't think he'd come even close to winning stupidist post ever. :/

To reply seriously, I do give thanks for my food. I am having a huge feast, the great Spring Festival, which is a thanksgiving, in a way, for the bounty and plenty to be found at this time of year. Where on earth did you get that vegetarians are not thankful for their food? 2. Plants are alive sure, but they don't have souls. The everything has a Spirit thing strikes me as a bit of a misnomer. Which religion are you if you believe this? I know some religions teach this, but not all do, and not mine.

 

Why am I argueing with someone who can't even spell "vegetable"?

 

The spelling errors made me crazy, for one thing.

For two, to the creator of this topic...here's my two cents:

Fruitarian is one way to go I suppose, and I'll openly admit that I don't think I have enough strength and determination to do that. However, when it comes to making a choice... between what I eat, I would rather eat a plant, than an animal.

Do I feel bad for eating plants? In some ways, yes I do... however, plants don't feel on an emotional level, and that's what drives me to choose plants over animals.

 

That's "arguing"

All these annoying spelling errors!

 

the veggies are plotting , as we speak , a bloodbath .... theyplan to make fertilizer out of us ....

 

:lol:

I never said I was any better.

And also, I must appologise for my "stupid" comment. Your post actually prompted discussion with my mother and I, on why we no longer say grace over dinner. While I don't agree with your opinions, your post did prompt some thinking.

 

Thanks Kiz-that was my Intent.

 

Which religion are you if you believe this?

I am Lakota Sioux-You know the people who lived here in peace with The Earth-Gave thanks in what they took off the land. Never wasted a bit of what they took.
The ones who saw that even a Rock had spirit! The ones who lived here and the land was still GREEN. That Thinking.

 

I could never say grace or thatnk the food before eating it, it's just not natural...

We eat things that are below us in the food chain like all other animals, why should we thank the food that we eat.

I mean if someone, was eating me and felt so sorry that he had to thank me for letting him eat me altho I'd never given him the right, I would considder him a hipocrite...

I figure I do the animals a favour by eating them, so why should I thank them?