view of us

what are other countries view of us culture and laws compared to ther own?

 

I don't know if I could speak for everyone in Ireland but most people I know think America is a seriously fucked up country with extremely harsh laws and major crime problems. I think it goes without saying that most don't agree with their foreign policy, which would be the main reason for an increase in anti-american feeling of late which is a shame because people never felt that way when before. When Clinton was in power things were different, it's a shame that a whole country gets a bad rep all cos of a few individuals in power. Most people are baffled over the fact that most Americans bought into all the crap about liberating the Iraqis when it's was the worst kept secret on the planet that it was a war for oil. As has often been said, if Iraqs main export was bananas would America have got involved. People also don't like the fact that America think they are so much better than the rest of the world and that they can bully everyone else. I also personally think it's a disgrace that a western country like the US still has the death penalty.

 

My country (USA) makes me want to leave it, all the time.

And if our moron of a president goes another couple years, I'll seriously consider it.

 

i agree i cant stand it in the u.s, i have dual citizenship so when im old enough im thinking of moving to canada

 

British Columbia sounds like a nice place to move. I dunno if I'd be willing to leave the country though, America can be a great place in a lot of ways and I think Bush's reign is about to end.

 

Exactly. Yes, gw is great at leading....leading the country where he wants to go. Not where we need to be going. I think it would be great if everyone just went out and didnt vote, and the ones that did vote voted for ralph nader. And hopefully, no votes would go to either of the big candidates. But like ive said before, im not voting for kerry, im just voting against bush.

 

How can anyone be eager to give-up ther right to free speech? And the presumption of innocence? Not to mention due process and freedom of religion?


The US is nethier crime filled nor does it have especially harsh laws. The rest of the world (with the exception of Venezula) is subject to arrest for sedation- the most unjust arrest of all.

And Hooray for the death penalty! Some people need to be wacked.

 

Lets jsut hope geck was being sarcastic... its always hard to tell..

Anyway, yeh the world pretty much thinks americans on teh whole are dumb. There is also resentment over america's power, wed all sjut wish theyd keep to themselves (govt that is).

Of course, i know americans who are nice people, but theyre generally the ones who have left the country haha

And canadians are so much cooler than americans (theyre much nicer at least!)

The world also laughs at american patriotism, thats prolly one of the main things that brings america down (and of course is essential for its survival)

but the worst thing about AMerica is its ultimate isolation. The majority (i dont know the figures, but its really chocking) of american highschool graduates cant find the most important countries in teh world (UK, Russia, Japan, and ill put Australia in the list caus were awesome )

A lot of australians dislike teh american culture being pushed into us as well.

The reasons for disliking america go on and on but overall I dont beleive ive spoken to someone who thinks highly of the country. the world jsut knows not to piss america off caus theyve got the big guns.

America has patriotism to keep its country i line, And big guns to keep the world in line, and until one of them is removed, their not gonna loose their grip ever. OF course, big guns inspire patriotism and patroitism lead to better guns (figuratively) so it would be hard to get rid of them....

 

im thinking canadas a good place to go too, we should have like a convention up there! all the canadians i know and meet are awesome. but seriously, america's taken some not good downwards turns lately. im scared to know whatll happen if Bush stays in office.
Death penalty is good though. You're not going to let a murderer stay in jail and use up your tax dollars, are you? I think all murderers and rapists should get the dealth penalty. Otherwise they stay in prison, take up space and money, and usually just get put back on the street.

 

The EU has more of everything else there than the states, apart from possibly freedom of Religion which is only due to some minor disputes in certain countries. The presumption of innocence in America is laughable.

You can not get arrested for sedation in Europe and if you check it out you have far harsher laws for everything in America than in Europe.

I hope you were being sarcastic.

 

First of all, what the hell is sedation? Is it illegal to use sedatives? Or are you talking about sedition?

Second, it costs more tax money to kill someone with the death penalty than life in prison, due to the long and arduous appeals process, not to mention paying for the usual jail expenses while the guy waits (often for many years) for the final decision. And if you try to speed it along, you end up with a higher probability of killing an innocent man (it's happend many times in US history).

Third, just because our government sucks, doesn't mean we the people all do. You in the other countries should keep that in mind. I disagree with our leadership a great deal, but don't know if I'd ever move out of the US (unless they instate a draft, then...well, fuck this place).

I know our country as a whole has issues (kids can't find countries or compete academically internationally, people buy lame ass reasons for war, high crime...) and I don't know the cause, or the solution. But we aren't all bad.

 

Sedition is writing stuff to try to incite people to overthrow the government or current system of rule.

 

if they just legalized weed it would be so much better

everyone in us drinks and smokes cigs when they get old and carry there american flags everywhere and look down on stoners and think everywhere else sucks and theres a lot of crime and gangster shit goin on

europe seems like place to be

 

not trying to stereotype just telling others in world an inside view from a stoner

 

Europe is not without its problem either let me tell you, France, Germany and Spain are all suffering from high unemployment at the moment which is only one of the problems. I'd still prefer to live in Europe though, far more diversity of cultures and a more relaxed lifestyle. Also more relaxed laws towards cannabis and drugs in general in some countries.

 

What's the crime like? According to Michael Moore, there are way fewer gun deaths, is that true? And how about crime in general? How's the health care over there? I hear bad things about Canada and Europe, but nothing specific, just stuff like "they've got serious problems" and that sort of thing. Generalizations, probably bullshit most of the time, but I don't know. It's stuff like this that worries me, because, pardon the pun, it's all so foreign to me. I know nothing about other countries, really, not specifics like that, because we're so sheilded here in the states, in school and the news, and I never thought to look it up. Wouldn't know where to start, haha.

I'd kind of like to move over there someday, or to Australia. The problem is, I don't speak anything but English. That'd be a problem, except in like, the UK, Ireland, and Australia.

 

Well id liekt o know what those problems are caus unless its like the economy, i dont see how any of the other major western countries have more poblems than the US? lol maybe there are by American standards but thats irrelevant when you move.

 

And as for the teenage american myth that canada is some kind of paradise, it's BULLSHIT!

I was born a dual citizen. I'm canadian, and it's a fucking third world country! Besides the lack of political freedoms, The division between rich and poor is far greater than in the states. Half of the country lives in poverty, and 10% or less live as an elite. Thousands of canadians winter here in florida, where thier money is worth 70 cents on the dollar, while millions live on goverment cheese back home.

The mounties will kick you ass quicker than a las vegas cop. After all, you're guilty until proven innocent.

The enviroment? Canada "let" (read:sold) ALL the north atlantic codfish in the ocean. In the 60's, the type cod was one of the most numerous fish in the ocean. By 2010, It will be extinct. But the gov made big bucks. They'll log the yukon when the price of lumber gets high enough. And the people do nothing-eh?

Quick! name something canada produces! Exports? doesn't get from china or the US, maybe? Anything of candian manufature at your local store at all?
Canada is the great consumer- they use the products of others and offer only natural, unrenewable resources in return.

Study the issue! Buying this anti-american bullshit is as bad as buying into anti- anything. Catholic, black,- whatever.
And anyone who propagates lies through ignorance is no more than a klansmen of a different kind.

 

is it so wrong to have different views being an american or not?

 

[You read too much propaganda. But you're" forgiven- after all, you've no freedom of the press, so your spoon fed your info through gov approved sources.]

What do you base that on I'm amused to say the least??

[That's just ignorant. That presumption of innocence has kept countless people from jail- including yours truly many times. Can you decline to be searched? No, you can't- because you're a damn site less free than Americans are.]

You are all innocent until proven gulity in Western Europe.

[So child molestation is thought of less harsly in the EU? What's your point?
And as for sedation (speaking out against the government), you may call it something else, put you have no right to unlimited critisim of your government. You're all afraid of your own govs, so you bitch about the US- the one gov that allows bitching. Talk about irony!]

I wouldn't be afraid to speak out against my government, I think you seem to think that most Western European countries are living in the 50's. Life in prison in America means life over here life in jail means about 10 years max. You check it out, sentences over here for the majority of crimes are alot lower than in the USA

[And I hope you're being facestious!
How many dead friends have you got?]

Oh that's right becuase killing another person is really gonna make it right. Also how many innocent people do you think have got the chair in your country?


Geckopelli you seem sound from all your other posts but the amount of shit you have talked in this post in unreal. Also I don't think this is necessarily anti-american it's just telling like it is.