I've been using opiates for over 4 years off and on but since last June I have found myself falling deeper and deeper into the drug pattern. My tolerance was getting higher and higher. So it started hurting my wallet more and more. I have decided to take a break until Thanksgiving and I'm on day 3 now and it really hasn't been all that intense yeah I have the ope shits, feel kinda down, my legs are kinda sore, but I still feel decent and it feels good to know I'm saving a lot of money. But really as long as you keep imodium and some dayquil and nyquil around I believe it's possible to stop opiates cold turkey. I'm also a father of a 9 month year old girl so it keeps me busy. I do believe the mind is a powerful thing and as long as you can focus your mind somewhere else you will be fine. I know I will always feel better on opes but I rather not be broke than be on opes all the time llol. theres my 2 cents
Also I wish I knew the exact thing quote Dr.House said after his 7 day break from opiates on the show. He said something like he knows hes a addict but not a junky cause as long as you can pay your pills on time and go to work on time and keep it that way then your a addict not a junky. it sounded way better the way it was worded on the show of course
I pay all my bills on time but yeah it's true if I went any farther into the ope game that would of changed. If I had the spare money right now I would be swimming in some OC40s. This doesn't mean the money isn't there it's just paying rent, buying diapers, toys and other stuff is more important than feeling on top of the world. I don't know you well but from what I do know you can afford suboxone which means you or your parents have money. there my 3 cents lolll. I also feel way more hyper and only find myself posting on here while I'm w/d. I never thought there be a time where I could find OC's but no buddah what is this world coming to?
You aren't even close to understanding what WD's are. Everyone's WD's are different, because everyone has a different tolerance, and some people take more then others, etc. All I know is that after over a year of 250-300mg of Oxycodone a day....I would seriously consider cutting my legs off while in WD. It is the worst, most insane pain you can ever imagine. Every bone, joint, and muscle in your body hurts. You can't eat, you dry heave all day, you can't shit, and when you do shit, it's like explosive diarrhea. You can be cold as fuck all day, but sweat like a pig. It's the absolute worse feeling ever....so please don't ever try and downplay WD's, and act as if people make them out to be worse then they are. From what you described, it sounds like mild mild wd's, more mental then physical. If you ever have real WD's, you will look back on this post and WISH WD's were really this easy, trust me. Keeping busy doesn't help WD's....that helps MENTAL cravings, but there is really NOTHING that can help PHYSICAL WD's, except MORE opiates. Also, I am the father of a 19 month old baby girl as well. I would like to know what your daily opiate intake is. What do you take, do you do it every single day, what is the longest you have binged for ( i.e. taking them every single day) etc.
I was going to recount some horror stories concerning w/ds. But that is what they are, horror stories of puke, piss, and mean words. Jail and w/ds... I don't wish either on my enemies.
I admit from all the reading I have done that you are def correct thats with that much of a daily intake and longer term of use and especially if you are in actual pain to begin with it will make the w/d more intense and a 100 times worse. Towards the end of my binge it would take 20 mg in the morning to feel alright and around 30 or more to feel good. I would say that towards the end 80 mg was a great day Since only thing I had available was what I could get on the street I never got to use the same thing steady. The strongest I have messed with was a OC80 or a fent 50 mcg/hr (of course the fent patch wasn't all at once I put it on my arm like your suppose to). I would usually get the 100 mcg/hr and cut it in half as they were the Mylan patches which didn't have the gel that people cut out to either smoke or ingest. If I didn't have any opes available I would use poppy tea which def works great for the money. It's prob been at least 3 months since I've had more than a 18 hour break from opiates. Don't get me wrong I don't feel great but I also don't feel like the worlds coming to a end I only feel that way when I click it on CNN. Also about a month ago I started the whole benzo and ope mixture which made it all the better. After that I felt a lot more jumpy when just on the opes Also I was trying to research if having ADD made any difference to the way opiates effected me but all I could find was storys with people with ADD/ADHD saying why they used opiates which I could definitly agree with. I didn't mean to offend anybody I should have probably put w/d aren't the worse thing for me since I'm not speaking for everybody and of course the longer and more you use the worse the w/d will be also I know the punctuation, spelling and wording is prob totally fucked on this posting so live with it
Yea no offense Legendinthetime, but your withdrawals are nothing like a full blown addicts, which is a good thing, I hope your happy about that. Also I think you said youve been on opiates for 3 months daily, and 80 mgs got you where you need to be? Thats definitely a habit, but its not a horrible downword spiral of addiction. I mean full blown wds are exactly what u4iaa said, you'd rather be dead than go through serious withdrawals, thank god i've never had that experience. I've had some medium withdrawals, where I don't want to talk to anyone and I feel sick, and shit liquid all the time, , but mentally I can feel allright at soem points, and I can always sleep a few hours. But thank god I'm getting off the ope train, its fucked up my wallet and too many other parts of my life. DO you plan on staying clean, or just taking a break? I know its hard but try to stay away from the opiates for a long time, if you have a family to think about. I'm scared to work if I'm going through wds. Good luck
I agree. The problem with what you said Legend is not that you aren't right, but that when you describe WD's you describe a level of WD's that is much less than what many hardcore users experience. I used to have WD's like you Legend, but I got deeper and deeper and finally it got to the point that when I stopped I'd feel more like what U4ia describes. The worst mental and physical pain i'd ever experienced, especially because I take opiates for actual chronic pain and that plus my WD's was unimaginably awful. I had to get someone to drive me to the ER and drag my ass in in a wheelchair. fortunately for me, I have a medical excuse, and can go into an ER and get a few mg's of dilaudid if things get really desperate. But I also have great health insurance. I'm not saying what you feel isn't withdrawl Legend, but it is certainly a different level of withdrawl. So be sensitive, but no worries man I'm just glad that you, as a father, are able to stay distanced from opiates enough to pay your bills on time. I feel the same way. I am a functional addict. I am physically, and in part, mentally dependent on OC but I also have a prescription, and I still get to work on time and (for the most part) pay my bills on time. When that changes, I will be in the clinic asking for subs the next day. Because thats the point when I know I'll have lost control. Hope you stay clean and take care of your family: that is the most important thing in the world, and I wish more people would understand that, so it was good to hear you talking about buying diapers instead of OC because you know there are many people who do the opposite. Be Safe, Get High, -V
By the way man - I detoxed in Jail. WD's PLUS Jail... I WILL die before I do that again. Dry heaving and explosive shitting in a metal toilet with no seat with some dude sitting there having to watch me, then lying on a two inch thin hard plastic mat on a cement floor for hours with nothing to do other than try to sleep or read the bible. Worst thing I have ever experienced. I also don't wish that on my worst enemies. -V
opiod and or herion WD are very tough try booze WD it might kill you but no one thinks it is as bad as herion wd cause booze is legal.
yea like u4ia says.. everyones WD's can be different.. he gets bad ass WD's.. me, i do like 200mg ++ of Oxy a day, and when im out.. i dont get alot of pain, i just get in a bad mood and alot of fucking anxiety.. constantly wondering if i should go buy some, or just wait for the script while i sit here in emotional pain rather then physical.. lol
I appreciate all the insight and support I'm on day 5 now and I'm just happy I stopped before it got any more out of hand. I know I can control my opiate use as I always have over the years it's just with all the recent stress going on in my life lately I was using opiates as a escape from it. I know I will use opiates again I just know it won't be every day and I am definitely going to stick to that. Well I just hope everyone can do their best to enjoy this drug and be safe at the same time.
