What if I've never done psychedelics and I want to start with DMT?

Is this a completely retarded idea?

I like the idea that since it doesnt last long i wont be able to go crazy and go to the hospital or anything irrational like that (the thing I fear most about psychedelics is that they last a long time).

I kinda want to heal my depression...

Feel free to smack some sense into me, I will be more than happy to be humbled.

 

you don't go crazy from other psychedelics, I promise.

The thing about psychedelics is they rip off the layer of our reality we like to call time. So while a DMT trip may last only 5 minutes or so in real time, it will seem perpetual and infinite when you're actually in the trip.

I started my psychedelic experience with salvia. I hated it, but nothing I could have tried before it would have prepared me for it. There is no rule that says you have to work your way up from the easiest to the most intense hallucinogens. Go for it if its what you really want to try first.

 

From my experience, you can take whatever drug in order to try and prepare for DMT, but one is never prepared for it. If you feel for yourself you are ready for it, try it.
Though take a small dose first. Good luck!

 

Dmt won't heal your depression...

Its not a retarded idea but its probably not where I would reccommend to start your psychedelic explorations. Its so quick, intense and short in duration that utilizing the trip in any significant way without prior psychedelic exposure, seems like it may be difficult. You very well may enjoy it if you decide to use it but you most likely wont get the most out of it initially.

 

I agree with guerillabedlam. If you are looking for a chemical catharsis, dmt is too quick and intense to absorb features relative to that end, without a baseline
psychedelic experience to make comparison. I would imagine dmt as a first experience would be more apt to be regarded as recreational in nature. Like the thrill of bungee jumping.

 

Your ass will handed to you, but in a good way. To take it for depression isn't good, as others are saying. However, for a first time? eh...can't argue...if you think you're ready for it.

I would suggest a low dose mushrooms. It isn't overpowering and lasts 4-6hrs, if not shorter which allow for meditation. The substance isn't going to "fix" anything, but perhaps a tool.

 

Sorry guys, I really didn't make myself clear when I said I want to ''heal'' my depression. I don't expect that DMT (or any psychedelic) is going to be like a happy pill I take and then feel better.

For the past 2 years or so, my life has just been me cycling in and out of depression. It never lasts long, but I also never feel 100%. I feel ''ok'', then I start to get ''sad'' and I can't really figure out why. AFter that I get anxiety, and then I'm full on depressed and need to rest for a day or 2. After that I start to feel ''ok'' again, and then the cycle begins once more.

Exercise helps, meditation helps, but always only temporarily. Do I believe in the hormonal and chemical imbalances tought to us by the ''prozac'' generation? I usually don't, but when I get down, I sure feel like booking an appt with my doc and going on those pills.

Yes, I HATE my job. Yes, I am unhappy in my relationship (which coincidentally, my depression started about 6 months into it). Could they be causing my depression? Maybe (probably?). But why the hell do I stay? My job, I get it, I dont really have a choice for now - but my relationship? Why do I do this to myself? I am afraid. Just like I am afraid of psychedelics, just like I am afraid of everything else. And I have good reason to be afraid. Getting as down as I can get can be down right scary. But then again, if I'm going through it anyways, why am I scared to make a move?

I don't want to kill myself, but when I feel this shitty, I so tend to ask myself how I am going to survive another 60 years or so constantly feeling like this. I want to repeat this to make sure I am clear - I have no intention of killing myself - but somtimes I am afraid of ending up wanting to (if that makes any sense).

With what you guys have said here, maybe DMT is not right at all for introspection since it's like being shot out of a cannon and slingshotted back to earth before realizing what is going on, but yeah, something needs to change! I think I read here somewhere that it is a better idea to spend 8 hours on a psychedelic before 8 months on an SSRI, but I do know myself, and I understand how unsettling things can have a lingering effect on me.

Sorry for the long rant...

 

i agree with dude about low dose mushrooms, although mushrooms can be so unpredictable that you could end up tripping balls off a low dose. Find some that someone you know has tried before so they can attest to the potency of them.

Mushrooms can be very introspective if you take them with the intention of exploring the inner workings of your mind. They have always had a way of illuminating what is important in the grand scheme of things to me, therefore alleviating any anxiety I have about things that don't really matter in the long run (such as bad relationships).

 

Picking up a hobby or perhaps joining some sort of self help support group or just a group/club that shares a common interest may be very helpful to you.

If you wanted to try to go the psychedelia route MDMA or 2ci may be very good introductions to the kind of experience you are seeking. They are 'easier' in a sense then many psychedelics also fairly emotional experiences. Keep in mind MDMA often produces a comedown after the experience, which may have these feelings of yours become highlighted on full blast after the main part of the experience is over. 2ci can sometimes cause headaches. Mushrooms can be a great experience as well and set you on a different path.

I rarely ever reccommend low doses of psychedelics unless you are trying to use them for functional purposes (writing, music, art, etc) so I'd suggest taking a good dose as well.

 

DMT makes you believe in space Aliens controlling your thoughts. Best to stay away from it entirely.

 

Thanks. About the hobby and all that jazz, that's not the problem. I have an active life, play in a band, have lots of friends, and so on. This isnt the problem.

Correct me if I'm wrong but you seem to be of the school of thought that depression is some kind of disease that one needs to ''learn to live with''. Am I correct?

 

For the sake of reopening a whole nother headache with another member in this thread let's spare my thoughts on depression for now. MDMA is essentially a super anti-depressant that also happens to produce some psychedelic/empathogenic effects.

Do you not find making/playing music therapeutic? I find playing guitar very therapeutic and a great medium to release/express my troubles through. I've given you an answer via chemicals and an answer via keeping your mind occupied naturally, you can feel free to choose either one, both or neither depending on whatever you believe will be most beneficial to yourself.

 

Haha, I understand. Please note however, that I did not mean any disrespect by it, I am interested in knowing your thoughts about this, since I want to learn as much as I can.

Feel free to send me a private message with your thoughts if you want, that way you will only be debating with me (or teaching me a lesson) haha. If not, I understand (and I can always lurk your posts if I really want to know)

As for playing music, yes, it does help, but it depends on the situation. The act of playing music in itself is 100% theraputic, but if I HAVE to go to a jam and I HAVE to worry about the fact that I need to go on tour in a month and not know if I'll be able to handle the anxiety that comes with it or not being able to handle it because of depression, it becomes counterproductive.

 

Dude just be sure that when you take it; feel as comfortable as you can be.
You wanted this, you will undergo a heavy experience, so heavy, that you question reality.
I broke through this weekend and I would never have thought, EVER, in my life to feel like I was dying and that I had peace with it. It wasn't a bad trip, it's just you are put eye to eye with something so huge, so big, your brain cannot comprehend it.
What I'm trying to say is:
Make sure your set and setting are as good as can be, and mentally prepare yourself for it(as far as you can, since DMT is unprepare able).

 

My friend hadn't tripped on anything and smoked a dmt spliff and he didn't even know there was dmt in it. He had a blast.

 

You can do DMT. Anyone can do DMT - but you may have trouble understanding what DMT shows you due to its power if you aren't somewhat used to tripping.

I'm not trying to scare you away, and I'm not saying you won't LIKE DMT, it's just that the intensity of the drug may not be the right thing for treating depression.

 

Sounds to me like you need to eat some mushrooms.

 

dmt is for everything and everyone because in the end we all are one.

 

hmmm cool answers peeps. I understand!

DMT - bungee Jump
Introspection - other psychedelics.

gotcha!

 

I agree with guerillabedla, on all of his posts. My girlfriend was not in the best mood when she tried it, i thought it would help but i was wrong. You have to be in a very good state of mind for this. Also small doses, like Terrence said, i believe tend to trivialize the experience. This is a sacred thing, you have to have some level of commiment with it. You have to be ready and willing to go wherever it wants to take you.

As for previous experience with psychedelics, i think it really helped me understand my experience, it helped me remember i think. If thats your first experience its going to be soo much new stuff that you havnt event been able to begin to imagine yet. But i dont think anything could prepare you for it.

I think the best cure for depression of any kind is a joint and a sunset. meditate, do some art. psychedelics will not center you, you will benefit from it so much more if you can center yourself beforehand.