What Is God?

Mmmkay, You know how people say 'God' created the universe, and earth? Well if there was no earth or universe to begin with, how can there be something to create it?

 

God is a supernatural thing,beyond the beyond
no logic need apply

 

Ahhh. I like this Question. And this is what bugs me about church people they talk about god like it is this person. I dont think so... I think "god" if that is our choosen word for what created us is infact everything around us. I think the forces that can exsist without matter like temp. (nothingsness is cold) and other voids in space somehow connected in a way that matter was produced. This is the only answer to the answer where matter came from. Now some folks say god made matter. Well my response to that like so many others is what made god. then sunday school hit them and they say you dont question things like that... well I do... and the answer is that matter was formed by unseen forces that exisit without matter... wow, ok now this is hippocritical because the question of what made that, then what made that then what made that are endless to Infinity... Answerless so were back where we started. With one out of the way, God doesn't even know it exists its not a he, she, it or anything its just combined circumstances that resulted in matter in the end. is god smart? no is god dumb? no god is just a word we use to try and label "the creator". So in that sense Oxygen and Hydrogen are the Gods of water, is my opinion making sense????? Growing up we've had it beaten into our heads that god is he or she, I just cant buy into it, its ridiculous... Once the world was flat and people would laugh if you said it was round... one day people will laugh when say people once though god was a person or held an image like us......

Mike...

 

if you are talking about the god who created everything then the only definition i can offer it an..... uncomphrehendable-infinate thingy....

i believe there must be something that is outside all of our universe rules and system that is infinate, because if there wasn't something that wasn't infinate then we shouldn't be here at all let alone anything else. Something out of time/space etc....

peace x

 

Consider this is a metaphor. This is God.

All these little mechanical monkeys I made are getting out of control. For eons your witch doctors have been trying to control YOU and getting your money by making ME in their own image... I do exist, but in a form so strange and so convoluted and so unusual for you that you will never, ever comprehend me. (paraphrasing David Byrne)

So eager to be led, you don't know what the HELL you are doing. The way out is back to where you were, before property, before slavery, before warfare, before standing armies, before, before, before. (paraphrasing Terence McKenna)

 

I dont believe in god like most think of him/her/it. I think of the Divine Being AS the universe. It IS the eternal.

 

Thanks for your opinions, I enjoyed reading them all.. Hope more people reply, lol.

 

i am god, you are god, everyone is god. God is not an all seeing all knowing being. Its everything. Its all the energy around you and inside of you. God is just a name we came up for it.



btw, i heard a theory that Jesus was part Alien. like the virgin mary was a virgin because she was abducted and implanted with an alien baby (which someone women claim has happened to the today) and that he was born half human half alien with all these wierd powers a views. when he died, dosent it say soemthing about ascending to heaven on a chariot of fire? is that a UFO

I dunno, wtf, aliens are scary

 

the universal balancing force. I believe that everything balances in the end, it has to. Being in tune with God is the same as being in tune with nature; If you believe in God from the Christian perspective then you can agree with that (because God created nature).

 

ps- I dont think that any individual being created the universe, I think that 'God' is the universe.

 

universe is the universe,why even use the word god

 

I dont like to use the word god, but the question was 'What is god'. So there you are

 

math existed before the universe, it didn't need to be created, it just has always been....


god is the same way....

 

....wow I just read all of these... and people really overthought this.....

 

Quest Techie brings up an excellent point, I think.

Even when there was no universe for anything to exist in there was math. There were 0 planets, 0 trees, 0 stars, 0 people, 0 everything. But if you add 2 apples and one person and one universe and one planet then you have something tangible. Just because they didn't exist before doesn't mean that the possibility of them becoming wasn't.

So no matter what did or didn't exist in the moments before the Big-Bang/Creation is irrelevant b/c the probability of it happening was there which is all a theoretical God would need.

Remember a being that could create a universe would be so much larger than us in scale it would be difficult to comprehend. Imagine a red blood cell. It gets oxegyn from your lungs and carries it all over your body for you. Nice guys, red blood cells. Now tell a red blood cell to get a glass off water from the sink and carry to you in the living room. His/her answer would probably something along the lines of:

"The glass is so much bigger than us and the sink so far away that we would need to develop and immensely expensive and powerful set of tools (like a cellular hubble telescope) just to observe the glass and sink, let alone travel there. And even if we accomplished that we couldn't possibly dream of a way to manipulate them in any manner, let alone in a manner that fills up the glass with water (making it much, much more massive) and bringing the glass to you."

You however know that it is possible to fill the glass with water. You know its possible that the roof will start leaking and the glass will fill with drips, or that a friend will come over that might fill it if you ask nicely and you know that if you pick up the glass, walk over to the sink and fill it up that there is a damn good chance you will have a glass filled with water in your hands in a very short amount of time.

If a being that much greater than ourselves were around then maybe it could see the possibility of a universe or existence from nothingness and all it had to do is tip the odds in favor of it occuring by filling up the glass.

 

On a side note there is a chance the universe created itself (and destroys itself and creates itself again in a never ending cycle).

ex. A tremendous amount of energy causes the big bang sending tons of matter in all directions throgh space time. Since space time is curved and since something traveling along a continually curved surface will eventually return to its point of origin, the energy from the big bang first pushed the matter apart and after it traveled along the curved surface long enough it would start to move closer together. Since matter has mass it makes gravity and eventually different galaxies get close enough together to be affected by each other's gravitational pull and they start moving towards each other faster as they get closer to each other (due to increased strenght of gravitational pull), eventually leading to the BIG CRUNCH where everyt galaxy and nebulae and all the stars, some mid super-nova, in the universe collides and collapses on itself yielding a tremendous energy output, causing the big bang.

Its paradoxical enough but as any Terry Pratchett fan knows: You ask a wise question, but its turtles all the way down.

 

there is never a state of nothing,because that would be against the very definition of nothingness.
if you had a state of nothing,then you would actually have 2 concepts
Quality (state of nothing)
and
Quantity (one state of nothing)
which forces 3 concepts:
Nothing,1,2
which forces 4 concepts,and so on...

check the "nature of existance" section here,for an interesting read:
www.ebtx.com

 

from what I understand...

A Divine Being has no physical attirubtes at all. It existed before matter and time.

I would have to disagree that math existed before the universe. All there was was asolute nothingness. Not time, not space...nothing. Not even Math. It is hard for us to concieve such an idea having all been born. Even when we say infinite, we can't really appreciate what that means. It's similiar to the red blook cell idea...only the truth would be that a red blood cell couldn't even see out side the body....it couldn't even see anything, lacking eyes. Similiar to this is how we understand infinity.

Getting back to the original poster, my answer would be the infinite Creater of heaven and earth. And infinite doesn't just mean without end, it also means without beginning. No one created the Creator. That would go against an idea of the Creator. And all physical matter and time and space only came about only when He willed it.

Furthermore, this Creator is still constantly creating the world right now...down to every last detail. But this getting off topic...

Of course I realize this is an extremeist point of view and do not hope to convince people against their big bangs and monkeys. Just my two cents...

 

"math didn't exist before the universe"


wow.... you do not understand what math is at all......

 

I understand your question. I feel God just is.