what to do?

i have lots of loose hair and i am wondering if i should crotchet them or just leave them my dreads are 3 months old and in 5 months i have a wedding to attend and i need then looking good or else they have to be cut
is crotcheting the best way to tidy them up or will they sort themselves out in 5 months?

 

Great question, i was always wondering the same sort of thing..

 

dont crochete..i mean u can if u want but the dammage isnt worth it because then u have to keep on crochetting for life most likely
and it weakens the dread
5 months will ber alot tighter ofcourse but loose hairs will not always all vannish

ok now what to xdo..use aloew vera spray or wipe it on, roll it genly in plastering the loose hairs to the dreads (not like use a ton a lil should do it, if not assdd lil more after it dries
as it dries it shrinks pulling in all the loose hairs making a flexible but strong film that holds it in invisibly
then rincesout

make sure u only use 100% pure aloe gell from the refridgerated section of health food stores..or directly from the plant
if u go plant route be sure its aloe vera not any other aloe variety as some are toxic while the vera variety is extremnely healthy for hair and skin.

pics would help

but i dont think it looks as bad as u think, and pulled back pr somrething they wont be noticable.

ok having said that fuck cutting the dresds for a wedding
refuse
if they want u there they want u there no matter how your hair looks
make it as neet as u can outts respect ofcourse, but fuck cutting it
dont let that be an option.


try the aloe soon as u can a few times so u know just how much to use to ger the results u need.

but remember its u thay want there not your hair
so if it comes down to it just go as ya are
let em moan about it later they'll stillbe glad u were there
hell my sisters wedding (1st 1) they couldnt get the father of the groom to not wear a dress
and why should they, its how hes confy.
and you shouldnt sacrifice your principlesds for someone elses wedding either.

 

hey thatnks alot soaring egale that helps
really it does
i think they should be good for the wedding
my mom made me a over sized wool hat and i just made it into a tam type thing by threading fishing line through the hat so i can tighten the hat around my head so it doesnt fall off
hopefully it works

 

no reason you cant crochet. its a widely used, safe method. ive never heard someone who crocheted say that it damages or is harmful at all. and its the easiest way to make dreads look neat. i have also crocheted myself: not damaging and not a big deal.

edit: loose hairs do join in. for me, five months was way to early for that to happen... im at two years and i still have a ton. everyones hair is different though of course. but most people agree that as the loose hairs get sucked in, new ones grow to replace them and you never escape lol. you just have to live with it or do maintenance regularely.

 

do lil lookinmg around here snd u wikl find many threads about issues with crochetting.

issue 1
the dread takes on a woven look and feel, thats very different from the natural new growth, so to prevent the new growth from looking asnd feeling different u have to keep crochetting to even it out (or a couple opted to just chop off the crochetted parts)
issue 2
crochette, and felting both use a needle to poke holes through the dread, felting is perobly more dammaging, but both perforate the dread brewaking hairs this causes some weakening, not catastrophic right away, but the weakening adds up over years and can cause dreads to fall off.
not all dreads fall off ofcourse, but there are aloytta reports of it on the web if u research..a couple here too.
issue 3
crochetting is used to pull in loose hairs..but it breaks hauir in the priocess, some of which find theyre way out needing to be opulled in again, breaking more which come out
now u can see why alotta crochetters crochette after every wash every week for years
its a never ending battle to repair the damage your doing trujbg to repair the dammage your doing (viscouse cycle alert)

your better off just never starting
im not saying if u do it once your stuck doing it for life im just saying doing it once will cause issues that make u want to do it again to fix em.
u can choose to stop ofcourse.

but again your better off never starting.

between the hat the aloe and just doing some neatening and or styling your fine..
but pics will help..usualy pics prove the issues nowhere near as bad as u think
this is typical cause
1
ppl look at theyre own dreasds very close others from farther away
so inperfecvtions are far more noticable
and 2
your more hypercriticle of your own dreads thenothers.

and 3..typicaly those who choose speedy methiods like backcombing tend to have more issues with disatisfaction when things arent very perfect
while those who go natural expect and love the inperfrectnersds find the greatest satisfaction in the so called flaws and just have an easier time accepting the so called bad dread days.

its all a matter of perception
perceptions can be altered too
cherish the days of constant change whenyour hairs doiing whacky thongs cause when theyre mature theyre more set intheyre ways and wont be as full of surprises.

 

bullshit. simply not true, you made that up.
i dont feel like getting into it, but it have done it on my own dreads and others. it looks fine. it is not a "vicious cycle". most importantly, crocheting does not noticeably damage dreads. (felting is another matter)

proof: world peace. she crocheted and ive never heard anyone say anything bad about her locks.

 

proof
shes 5 years into dreading and still crochettes at least ionce a month if not every other week.

do a search..theres hundresdds of not thousands of pages and posts all over to back that up
all over thye web on advice colums to haircare forums to you name it

im not basing this on personal experirnce im basing it on the collective experirences of hundreds
and yes worldpeaces dreads "look" fantastic
and yes crochetting can make them '"look" great, dfor awhile
but the dammage done isnt worthwhile.
and if left alone..i mean not crochetted for a good long while the frizziness, the lose hairs that come out are really severe.


you push alotta dammagingf practices then tell ppl to not wash theyre hair with asnything but water
you now say you backcombed, crochetted, dont wash so on and so on, and ..has anyone seen an update? just how well are your dreads doing?

not tryomg to be insulting here, but yas seem to go against conventional wisdom alot
making claims that all these things known tio do dammage dont do dammage at all (explain how thrusting a needle through a tightly packed dread does no dammage in the process? it has to do dammage in order for the needle to pass through)


in dreads, especialy once dence and firm the distance between hairs is nearky non existent so poking a needle through the dread is as dammaging as poking a needle through a finger. ya cant do it without breaking capularies dammaging cells ripping thriough muscles and tendons can you.
ofcourse hairs easier to break then skin so offers less resistence
but there just is no way to weave a straight needle through a tightly bound mass of hairs that wind round eachother in every oissible direction withouit breaking quite a few.
its physicaly impossible
do u have any logic in you?
can u possibly apply logical thought to this a momment instread of just taking the contray possition?


if yiou can explaiun logicly how a straight needle can weav through a chaotic mass without disturbing 1 single hair id love love love to hear it
and no..magic isnt a logical explasnation.

 

LMFAO.
ill address that later tomorrow.

 

Thats BS. How can you compare hair to flesh?LOL

Just crochet with a needle and a string, you'll break fewer hairs than separating. And No, you wont have to crochet for you whole life lol. I wonder who made that up

 

no u dont have to i never said u had to..but i said most ppl do because crochetting makes the dread look distivnctivly dfdifferent so they keep it up to keep it even with new w growth
]also. to keep fixing the broken hair

and the comparison with skin and hair is relative to the needle size.
a needle u would poke though skin is probly 1/10th the thickness of a crochete hook.
atight dread the hair spacing is nearly as tight as cell spacing.relative to needle \thickness.

but ok its a bad example
a rope would be better.
not a twisted rope but a nylon braided rope with a tightly braided core.

u cannot pass a thin needle through without puncturing or breaking individuasl strands (in the rope case more likely to puncture then break since the individual strands are thicker then the needle) in hair, the strands are thinner so will be easily split in 1/2


shat are u talking about use thread and crochete hook?
so you leave thread inside the dread?
im confused
you mean sewing in the hairs?
why would u want to do that?

your still poking holes in the dread..thats never a good idea (u cannot in any way poke any hole through a dread without breaking hairs.. the tiniest lazer couldnt pass through a dread wothout frying some hairs and surgical lazers can be many times thinner then the smallest needles
to pass through a dread without harming any hairs youd need a subatomic particle
perhaps an atom..maybe even a molucule wide
but could u slide anything as thick as a single hair through without it contacting other hairs? then u cant pust a needle through withouit breaking hairs

come on ppl i asked u to use lil logic
how can a needle of any thickness pass through a dread without harming the hairs
a single hair cant do it
neither can any needle
now if u can show me the physics of how it would work please do.

it makes absolutely no sence at all that any size nbeedle can slide through any thickness of dread without harming hairs.
you can say its possible all u want.but please back it up with something that makes sence.




crude diagram time

\]-0/xothgan
g-uiytgh1wn
jha,resbigtbk
-ujshbmyusjh
hdngshkty-9y

l

ok, the random letters repressent the haphazard structure of a dread
hairs compacted in random disorder ofcourse in the dread thered be no horizontal order either, the letters would be mashed up all ontop of eachother with no real gaps between
the thick l below it represents the needle ..now rthis is an extremely tiny neredle only twice the thickness of a single hair

can u see a direect path that needle can go straight up the cenjter of that jumble of letters?
no because there is none
there is no way that needle can go through those letters without breaking them
the hair in a dread is 10000 times more compact
thsats as rough estimate of hair just backcombed day 1
by the time its dreads, those individual letters wouldnt be distinguishable as letters..theyde be piled ontop of eachother looking more like an ink smear maybe with a couple lil spots that arent filled on.

when drezds are formed, u cant pish a microfibre through withiut it cutting through hairs that are in the waty and too tightly packed to move out of the way

it is physicaly impossible
why cant you get that?
and if u really believe it is physicaly possible please explain your logic

better yet
get a lazer 1/4 the size of the needke u use .. then shine the lazer through tyhe dread and tell me if u smell burnt hair or not

its like ya never took a day of physivcs in your life
solid object passing through solid object most disturb and displace solid obno 2 ways abouit it..2 solid objects cannot occupy the same space at the same time
1 must give way
a needle wont break going through hair so hair must break so needle can pass through

come on this isnt roclet since this is incredobly basic stuff here


my brain hurts from trying to explain simple logic to you
but thankfully the poster understands..lol
this is funny though how ya just dont get it..


try the lazer experiment and prove me wrong.


sizzle sizzle sizzle..lol

 

amy helped me figure out a way your logic works.. not by magic, but by alchemy
youd have to use the power of your mind to transmute the metakl and hair inmto 1 singulat thing, some sorta metalic filiment that way both hair and metal can exist in the same place at once by becomming molecularly bonded into 1 object.

it was really hurting my head to trty to figure out how u can possibly think a needle can pass throigh a dread without harming it
but i had never even conciddered alchemy.
that way the hairs not tecnicaly broken because it no longer exists as hair.
ya know you just may be brilliant and i fdidnt give ya credit for it
i would have never thoight of this if it wasnt for amy and her multivectored logic.

the needle does not pass through the dread because it becomes 1 with the dread so therefore neither needle nlr dread exists in that space any longer.

it took a real twist of logic to be able to see this..but yea i can see how this could work.


i guess we can also look at it from another way too.
non lineaer time perspecttive.
the needle can only disturb hairs while its inside the dread, so if you take time out of sequence you can see that no dammage is done except at the point where the needle is insside the dread, lets call that time index b
therefor, all time indexes that fall sequentualy before that time are undammaged.
so in order for there to be no damage at a time index after index b we simply have to manipulate time, putting the momment before the needles inside the dread right after the needle is removed.
in this case, the dammage no longer exists because we altered time so the momment before and tye momment after the dammage are identicle.

oh god im thinking like amy now and i cant stop...

perhaps theres even another way a needle can pass through a solid object.
ah.. duh this ones so simple why didnt it come to me 1st
1 object must change state.. to liquide or gas
it doesnt even matter which, a liquid or gas needle can pass through a solid dread with minimal resistence and zero dammage.
or a solid needle can pass through a liquid or gas dread very easily
hair is dificult to liquify, so must be vaporized
alternately, metal can be luiquifiesd at high temeratures
im not sure how hot it would need to be to be vaporized thoigh.
so, lets say the needle is heated till its a liquid then pored through the dread (liquid metal should be hot enough to vaporize hair, so this makes things very very easy, liquid pores throuigh gass efortlessly doing no harm to gas (unless u concider vaporizing hair harmful to the haior..damn ok that wont work..really thoight i was making progress here understanding this logic.
..


wait..i got it..might have to invent a new form of science to understand it, but, departicalizatiion.
im niot sure how to accomplish this yet, but
if we kloosen the bonds between particles the individiual particles that make up a solisd should be able to pass right by eachother undesturbed.
i supose wed have to blast apart the atoms while still keeping some sort of order so they wont just fly off in all dirtections in an uncontrolled reaction.
wed only have to move the particles a lil bit , just enough so they seem, to ocupy the same space at once

if a stom from each element can be loosened to the point that particles from each can coexist in the same relative space without losing theyre identity as a part of the original element
yureka i got it
in atom smashing a proton is acelerated to a great speed then smashed into a atom sending all the protons nuetrons and electrons flying in all directions.
what we need isnt an atom smasheer, but an atom nudger.
a proton sent at a relastively slow speed into an atom with just enough force to open gaps between protons and neutrons so a second nudged and loosened atom can fit inside the gaps of the 1st

i may have just discovered a way for mass teleportation.
these loosened atoms could pass right through solid objects and theoreticly be retightened on the other side.


see what happens when u try to explain how a needle can go through a dread? u forced me to invent teleportation.

but hey..it would work thereticly and really is a logical explanation for your theory that needles can pass through dreads..

damn niow i need to design an atom nudger thoigh..

then damn, after thsat gotta figure out how to use it to loosen all the atoms in both the needle and the dread then retighten them after..

this might take all night but i swear ill figure it out (then figure out how to go back in time, so my theretical device can be used on your dreasds in the past so your claims can be acurate based on the technology availible at the time...

damn this is alotta work just to fix a loose hair but ok..
i'll redefine science change the laws of nature and manipulate time just so i can prove your theories are true..
if you see me yesterdaty and i give u something to help u put a needle through a dread give it a try

now lets see..
this will be complicated, i need to bombard millions or billions of atoms

ya know what..i think we were closer to an explanation when we were vaporizing the dreasds

i think ill sleep on this and come up with a better idea thats lil easier and more practicle then teleportation..


geez i tired why didnt i think of the simplest explanation..
cut the dread in 1/2 put needle through the gap
glue dread back together.
technicaly then the needle didnt brealk a single hair..the scissors dod all that alowing the needle to pass through easily..

yea thats much simple then creatting a new science i'll stick with that explanation for now..

 

?! I'm only just now reading this thread, and haven't even decided what I think yet. I'm still reading this last post! If I helped it wasn't conscious!

 

Shit I have to go now so I'll read all that later. If you apply the rules of the Quantum Zeno Effect, then the needle isn't even moving!

 

ahh ii love ya amy thankl you
damn your smart too
that 1 was way beyond my logic capability.


im not at all familiar withthat theory so im gonna take a guessat it
if each momment in time is examined as something independent then the needle is always where its at at that momment.
only when forward motion of time is taken inmto edffect does the serioes of non movening needles seem to move since in each independent momment the reletive location changes despite the fact that at that frozen point in time no movement can be observed.

is that close?


i never thouight wed have to discuss the issue on a quantum level

but wait, in thbis theory there still are multiple time slices where the non moving needle intercects the non moving hair
and in that time slice you can say that the needle is not breaking the hair, but the hair is broken by the pressence of the needle?


do we really need a phd to understand why a needle thrust through a dread will intercect and pass through (break) many many individual hairs on the way through?

amy, your a smart one, do u have access to an electron microscope?
or at least a decent microscope so we can get a detauiled view on just how many hairs are broken in the process?
i'll sent ya a dread peice to ecxperiment on..it will be a really thin one so the distance versus hairs broken ratio will have to be drasticly increased for the average sized dread
but if 200 hairs break in a dread 1/16th of an inch thick the typivcal backcombed dread 1 inch thgick sghould have 3200 broken hairs right?

after i have some coffy ill put more thoight into this

im betting if the needle and the dread were passing through a black hole at the time the needle was passing through the dread the gravitational forces would compress the needle and dread into a super dence mass incapable of breaking.
i guess it could also compress the nucleaus enough as well as retard electron movement to the point whereindividual atoms are far smaller then normal
and if all the electrons orbits were frozen along a linear plane the actual width of the atom then would be justthe width of the compressed nucleuse (the nucleause typicaly being a fraction of the soze of the atom with its orbitting electrons)

i do have to thank ya all who dont understand the logic of why a needle cant pass through a dread without hurting the dread
trying to see youir point in all this has gotten my rusty ol brain working in ways it hasnt in years
and nnow i see that even the impossible is possible when you rationalize it to the extreme.


so, the most promicing theories seem to be.. expanding atoms so 2 can fit inside eachother simultaniosly, or flattening atoms to close to the point of non existence.

oh crap..that just brings up more ideas, dimensional shifting.
2 3 dimentional objects can share the same 3 dimentional space when compressed or repressented as a 2 dimentional object or model.

if you take a transparent picture of the needle and of the dread, lay the 2 transparancies ontop of eachother sliding the needle image across the dread image the needle can move from one side to the other without harming the dread because akonmg the z axis (depth) it has a zero measurement.. no dimention.



who else cabn come up with creastive ways a needle can intercect a dread without harming the dread
im sure someone else has a briliant idea too
lets hear it

 

I have one thing to say..... OMG do you ever sleep?! lmao

 

no
lol
and well, i was really feeling sorry flr the p;oster he asked hpww to fix some lloose hairs and we tell him 1st u need a phd in quantunm physics, thenm you need to stick your head inmto a black hole, compressing your headr and dreasds into a single point then push the needle throigh yoiur head and dread at the same time (ofcourse inside the black hole u may find an alternate universe with no wedding to go to so theres no point in fixing the hairs.)

but after thinking about this i decided that they sare not using quantum physics to explain how a needle can pass throuigh a dread
instead they are using what i call, cartoon physics.

2 dimensional logic.
in cartoons a bullet can pass throigh a brain and the character goues on n singing dancinmjg and telling jokes uneffected
because a cartoon bullet like a cartoon head is a 2 dimentional repressentation of the object with no real mass.

this also ezxplains why they can suggest harmful procedudres in a 2 dimentional environment (pixels on a screen, words with no depth) that are not harmful in the 2 dimensional environment of the web, unless the procedures are then applied to a 3 dimentional object in a 3 dimentiomal world.
and at that point all the damafge done is the fault of the person using the advice outside of a cartoon environment.



sorry i was tired, i shoulda realiazed this 1st, they were just using the logic of the web, that all things are just 2 dimentional pixels on a screen so can do no actual harm in a 3 dimentional world.

 

are you baked?

Just do what you want, you have 2 options, leave em alone or crochet. And SE i dunno about others, but when i get the loose hairs in and i wash my hair, the pattern is gone.

 

I'm sure dreads are put through way more stress than a little needle. No damage is done I'm sure... Hairs won't break unless you have REALLY brittle hair. Yea the crochet needle ( I personally use a latch hook) will leave a gap in the dread, but I bet you couldn't find it again, the dread closes back over it, and carries on knotting.

I just let my dreads do whatever, but when I need to I will tidy up the loosies. If the loose hairs are too much, and you need them to be tidy, I'd highly recommend using a crochet hook or a latchhook to tidy them up Its quick and easy and has a lasting effect if you figure out a way to do it right

 

i chrocheted a few times, no damage, i dont have a woven look, because when i did do it it spaced it close together and went around 1/8 around the dread each time, if you do it before the wedding its not going to hurt and it will look nice. i have had no problem with crocheting at all.