Whats very wrong with all Religion?

In both the Koran and the Holy Bible we are taught that in the begining, the lord God created the first Man and then he created the first Woman.

But if this is true and in the begining there was only two of us, then are we being told to understand we've been having sex with our own brothers and sisters?

That is the most disgusting and repulsive thing that I have ever heard!

I ask you, how pure and clean do you feel now?

Tainted by Original SIN!

 

You say that like this is the first time Christians would have heard of this!

God created a family - Adam and Even began this. This just shows that we are all a part of God's family. God put a stop to this later on in the bible (Leviticus 18). Did you never wonder about the phrase "brothers and sisters in Christ"?

 

Yes but by embracing your religion you think that another man who is born under the same sin has the rights to absolve you and grant you absolution or speak on Gods behalf and express to know the answers.

When by their own admission they where born in SIN

 

Well no because that is the way God made it, it became a sin from Leviticus not before then. Adam and Eve lived for like 800 years in order to create the world - The bible states when sexual relationships within families became a sin.

Do you mean Priests? Priests do not themselves forgive sins, you do not need a bridge other than Jesus for sins to be forgiven. Most preachers will have had a calling - meaning that God has chosen them to preach the word to others in a position of authority.

Everyone are sinners - so yes they are too, but they know that sin will be forgiven by believing in Jesus.

 

It's not out faith I'm having a go at

I just don't see how a priest for either can proclaim to hold true to divinity.

We had our shot at a lord and Saviour, we blew it, that only leaves the last half of the book to look forward too.. Great eh!

 

How do you mean?

Priests sin of course they do.

 

Look, how could Jesus (Yahshua) in the toh'rah have been Divine and yet Human at the same time. The virgin birth!

A priest or a prophet is not divinity! It's just not the same!

If god exist's he can travel faster than the speed of light, right!

Albert Einstein - "Nothing can travel faster than the speed of light!"

I think their is a god, so did einstein, but I dont think the church or the koran can trully express to understand the will of god. He might have changed his mind in the last 600 years, how can we say otherwise.

 

Priests don't compare themselves to God, that's not what they are there for, I don't know what priests you know. They are saying "look worship me I am God".

Einstein was a genius yes - but even he didn't see God or know what he can do!

I believe in a coming judgement also but I don't think that the church is doing wrong. I see it is an established place where you can go to worship God.

I am trying to answer what you ask, I asked what you meant because I can easily ramble off topic. Sorry if that annoyed you.

 

You're right, until there is a sign, all we can go on is the bible

 

All real prophets, etc, have always been both human and divine. Its their very nature. No virgin birth required.

A priest is a book trained person with little to no spiritual ability themselves. They are taught to lead. They are unlikely to be able to transmit spiritual energy like a saint can.

The speed of light is not correct. There are numerous sub-atomic particles which travel faster than light itself does. Light is pretty slow stuff compared to whats actually out there in the spectrum.

Einstein was right in his day, but not now.



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The church my brother burned countless people at the stake and you cant see what they did wrong or why they are one of the wealthiest institutions in the world.

"Please help us to fix our leeky roof!" - Remember what Jesus did when he found they had turned the house of the lord into a place of business?

I agree with what Jesus had to say but that was give away what you have and live free from taxes. Love thy neighbor's, I don't think we're being very loving blowing them up!

If god does exist he must be getting very pissed, we've used religion as a shield for the last 600 years to have a go at each other!

 

Not we.. some

I said doing not did

Christianity isn't about having a go at people.

You are using generalisations as a basis for your arguement and not personal faith. I don't even know where you are going with this!Maybe you need to think about what Christianity means to you and stop saying all Christians are the cause of Gods wrath or all things bad!

 

hmm, I would submit we all seek religion out of our own selfish desire to get into the gates of heaven and that is just plain wrong.

how can you absolve a serial killer on death row if he suddenly embraces religion!

 

That decision rests with God not the priest!

 

Is speed of thought not the fastest speed we know of in this Universe?

 

If he was omnipotent he could create a rock so big and heavy he himself could not lift it!

What is a god but a being who is worshiped by those considered to be beneath it.

Yes, yes I've heard all those arguements.

 

I actually don't just seek Heaven, I just feel that there is something bigger in the world. I didn't start searching for religion as a way to be saved, I turned to many other religions before Christianity, ones that don't "save" you.

And again, priests may say you are forgiven because the bible says that if someone fully turns their heart to Jesus and repents they will be forgiven. It may be that the indivdual doesn't actually repent but just saying it - the priest isn't to know that but God will and therefore the final judgement does lie with God.

 

Yes, I have turned to other faiths myself, but if we are to believe Christianity, then you should know they found the 'End of Days' in the hidden bible code of the toh'rah and that is just a little something that would make anyone renounce their faith, why me, why in my lifetime, why are we being subjected to see something so horrid come to pass. I renounce my faith, I am off to embrace something that doesn't tell me im screwing my own family.

Life is like a penis, when its hard you get screwed, but when its soft you cant beat it!

 

Well go and off and embrace something else, I'm not going to try and stop you!

I can only speak for myself within Christianity and I believe in a Second Coming. No one knows when it will be, but it can only been seen as something to strengthen faith not renounce it. But hey, do what you want, I'm not going to argue with you!

 

LOL, well I guess I made my choice when I went to watch Metallica and stuck my hand in the air in a gesture we all know far too well.