When should it be okay to have an abortion?

Maybe some of you know my thread on Abortion in the protest section, anyway I've stated a few times that it should be legal until the first heartbeat, which is usually 5-6 weeks but it depends on the embryo.

So here's a poll for when you think it should be legal, so no debates on whether it's right or wrong, I think that should tone down the hostility, this is just how allowable should it be.

In countries such as Canada abortion is allowed until the fetus comes out, that's right, it's legal to have an abortion in the third trimester, sometimes a week before the due date.

 

I don't think it should be legal after the first trimester, except in cases like those that drumminmama listed. There's really no reason to have an abortion a week before your due date if you have a healthy fetus. You might as well just have the kid, he or she is fully developed, and there were 9 previous months to make the decision to abort.

 

This is a difficult question b/c it has to be left personal
Im pro life but not to the point my voice in anyway will stand against others or vote for it to be illegal. The trimester doesn't make much difference to me
peace

 

the bible says that children less than a month old aren't human beings. so 29 days after giving birth is the latest you can have an abortion (at least according to god's laws).

Number the children of Levi after the house of their fathers, by their families: every male from a month old and upward shalt thou number them. And Moses numbered them according to the word of the LORD. -- Numbers 3:15-16

And if it be from a month old even unto five years old, then thy estimation shall be of the male five shekels of silver, and for the female thy estimation shall be three shekels of silver. -- Leviticus 27:6

 

This is a very difficult question to answer.

 

According to the law of the person that wrote what he thought was "God's law".

 

as early in pregnancy as possible, but it is still better to avoid pregnancy in the first place and to make the means of doing so freely and readily available to persons of all genders and potentialy child bearing and child causing ages.

and i do mean even most WANTED pregnancies are TOO MANY, let alone unwanted ones.

what we really need is to put something in the drinking water or some other way that favors no one, that will lower ALL human FERTILITY accross the board without bias or exception.

there's just too damd many of us being born as it is at all period.

abortions are the least desirable solution, but not including them as an option
would be much much worse.

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abortion is a bunch of crazy monkeys with knives!

 

By putting something in the drinking water it would impose on free will. Also, making abortions illegal at any stage would do the same. Free will is what America and the democratic process is based on. Of course free will is imposed on sometimes anyway, but why should we impose on it more? Everyone should have a choice to have kids or not.

 

i think that people should be able to do what they want. i would say that there are definitely negative consequences to abortion, it doesnt matter when or how you do it.

life is such a beautiful thing. to fuck with it is a sin.(i am not religious, just know of no better word to use.)

 

But what if the mom were to die without an abortion? By not having an abortion you fuck with life too. What if the kid would grow up in a shithole because his/her parents are way too poor and would then later die from disease or hunger? Would you choose to bring a child into a living hell that it would be tortured in up till its death, or would you rather have the life ended before the hell began?

 

what if you realize when your child is two years old that you can not afford children - do you kill your child, rough it, or give it up for adoption?

 

If you were to "rough it" who's to say the child and you would not die from lack of food, water, shelter, etc.? So you put it up for adoption. Unfortunatly that's not possible in a lot of cases and the child ends up dying anyway. I would much rather be aborted when I don't feel pain than be slowely killed while living a hellish life.

BTW, you never answered my question on whether or not it is ok to abort a baby for the life of the mother. Either way you are "fucking" with life, which you previously stated you don't agree with.

 

y'know, for something that is more or less a 'women's issue', most of the posters have been male...
this is kinda like a bunch of guys debating the pros and cons of brands of tampons. we just don't have the experience to adequately be informed.
i say leave it up to the wimin folk...

 

Lol so that means we can have and voice oppinions on a major issue in world? I'd say that's extreamly sexist of you.

 

i'm saying that it's so outside or scope of reference to understand what it's like to be pregnant or have an abortion (or really even empathise) that we really don't have the same ability to decide...

 

you are an idiot.

what a stupid argument.

 

okay, so what's it like to know that your baby will be born with a horrible genetic disease that will render it lifeless within two years. what's it like to have another person growing inside of you. what is it like to miscarry, what is it like to be so poor and fucked that the only way you can provide for yourself is to have an abortion?
can you answer any of those questions?
you can't?
because you have a penis?
well, then i don't think you can really weigh in on the issue.

it's kindof like speculating on the motives of the ancient romans, it's something so foreign that all our opinions come off as naive at best...

so maybe the men should leave the table and let the people that it actually affects decide.

 

Not too many people have voted but from the votes cast so far only 2 voted for unrestricted abortion which is my main concern.

I was also thinking of making an abortion poll about whether abortion should only be allowed in special circumstances etc but it seems to me like few people actually care about the detail and would rather have the yes or no option.

I sure hope more people vote.