Which research chemical most resembels LSD?

Which research chemical most resembels LSD?

 

None of them. LSD and the other ergolines are pretty structurally distinct from most of the compounds people refer to as ‘Research Chemicals,’ though they do have similar binding profiles with regard to some serotonin receptor subtypes.

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Yea nothing can even come close to LSD IMO, but 2c-e is pretty nice in terms of visual intensity.

 

I've heard a lot of good comments on the intensity of 2C-E as well...

 

True Story.

 

Where do you find these types of drugs, no one where I live has heard of these. Is there a shop that sells them or what?

 

One hopes there is certainly not one that sells them to 15 year olds…

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especially ones asking such a question

 

Ive heard that DOC is similiar to LSD (visually and mentally) but more sociable as phens are in general compared to tryptamines. It also lasts a few hours longer but acid is a whole day drug anyway so it probably shouldnt be much less inconvenient. I've even heard from some that it is more comfortable and less sinister/pushy than LSD. Kind of how i imagine ALD-52 would be from the little ive heard about it.

2C-B is also pretty similiar to acid in big doses 20mg+. It is just more down to earth than acid, your less likely to get all spaced out and do your own thing. It could be compared to candyflipping but more sociable and with more acid and less MDMA.

 

I´ve had some experiences quite close to LSD on 2C-T-2.

 

lol, I doubt most of these kids can even score the 2c-t's. And if they can, they're pretty fucking stupid if they rail it.

 

Per Stolaroff's & Wells’ Study on 2C-T-2 32.5% reported some degree of nausea. 17.5 % reported some degree of vomiting.



Per Murple’s Survey on 2C-T-2 60.47 % reported nausea and 23.26 % reported vomiting.

Per preliminary data from some surveys I am conducting, of respondents answering the side-effects questions 100% reported nausea / upset stomach and 60 % reported vomiting.

Some commentary: while there is some notable variance here, from internet reports and what research is available, it appears that 2C-T-2 can elicit nausea fairly frequently and can be a very rough ride for some (repeated vomiting, persistent nausea etc.). While it may produce some very profound psychedelic effects, there are definitely persons who would not repeat it due to the body-load.

Regarding deaths / serious adverse events, 2C-T-2 may (emphasize may) be safer than it’s cousin 2C-T-7 given that it was widely used in the Netherlands for a number of years (possibly 200,000+ doses sold) w/o any adverse events being reported with it in the years when it was legally available. It is possible that adverse events from 2C-T-7 could be related to some possible MAOI activity, and it may not be a bad idea to follow the standard MAOI precautions for drugs in the 2C-T-x class just to be on the safe side.

For more information try here: http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/2ct7/article1/article1.shtml

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see: propranolol

effective beta-blocker which negates the body load

 

Research at the University of Michigan is currently looking at raw ginger for its nausea reducing properties in chemotherapy. It appears that it blocks serotonin receptors in the GI tract that are responsible for producing nausea / vomiting. So it looks like our old pal The Flow is right on in his suggestion of raw ginger. Further it may act as mild vasodilator… so raw ginger may both attenuate GI disturbance side-effects and possibly favorably impact pharmacokinetics. Just some data that that might be of interest.

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Wow, awesome dude, I always wondered how he came up with fresh ginger, I was like dam this guy is a weird mother fucker lol, awesome that you found scientific data too. Wonder how flow figured it out though, is ginger traditionally used for upset stomach?

 

I believe that ginger has been a folk-remedy for some time… but it appears that simply raw ginger should work the best as opposed to any ginger containing preparations (ginger beer and whatnot). As to where Flow heard about it… I imagine he has a pretty appreciable understanding of plants and drugs.

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Yea guy def. knows his shit...

 

Ginger has been a folk-remedy as you said for many 100's of years ^^ It works really well for reducing nausea, though it is a bit hot when you eat it.

If they where available I gather AL-LAD, Pro-LAD, ETH-LAD and ALD-52 which tends to decompose into LSD-25 rather quickly. Some folks are comparing DOC to it too. Swim thinks 4-aco-mipt may come a bit close, as well as 2c-e.

Truthfully; nothing really can replace good-0 LSD.
Cheers

 

I would say 2C-E. The visuals you get with 2C-E closely resemble those with LSD. In addition, the time dilation is very similar. However, LSD is far superior because it is easier on the stomach and the effects set in much quicker (30-45 minutes as opposed to an hour or more). With 2C-E many people experience violent vomiting -- even with anti-nausea medication -- whereas vomiting is rare when using LSD. With 2C-E some people experience extreme discomfort and terrible headaches.

2C-I is nothing like LSD, despite what you may read. It is more like MDA or MDMA than LSD. The visuals are very light.

 

DOC (in terms of the visuals, way different mind effects imo, but same in terms of strength of trip (not by dosage) and length), 2ce (visuals), and ald-52 (LSD analog).