White House Just Says No to Marijuana Legalization!

Discussion in 'Cannabis News' started by skip, Nov 1, 2011.

  1. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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    Leader....

    1. One that leads or guides.
    2. One who is in charge or in command of others.
    3.
    a. One who heads a political party or organization.
    b. One who has influence or power, especially of a political nature.
    4. Music
    a. A conductor, especially of orchestra, band, or choral group.
    b. The principal performer in an orchestral section or a group.
    5. The foremost animal, such as a horse or dog, in a harnessed team.
    6. A loss leader.
    7. Chiefly British The main editorial in a newspaper.
    8. leaders Printing Dots or dashes in a row leading the eye across a page, as in an index entry.
    9. A pipe for conducting liquid.
    10. A short length of gut, wire, or similar material by which a hook is attached to a fishing line.
    11. A blank strip at the end or beginning of a film or tape used in threading or winding.
    12. Botany The growing apex or main shoot of a shrub or tree.
    13. An economic indicator.



    Take your pick......
     
  2. M2D

    M2D Member

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    so your suggesting that voting republican will help legalize marijuana?
     
  3. psychedelicpiper

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    It's not the party that counts, it's the CANDIDATE! What difference does Republican and Democrat TRULY make? Obama is a Democrat, but he's Bush #2.

    Ron Paul's actually a Libertarian, but since third parties never win nor get the attention they deserve (plus Obama will obviously win the Democrat GOP), Ron Paul is running as Republican. Technically, he's a true conservative, like our founding fathers. It's just the party has lost its way.

    Ron Paul is the only option we have towards the road to legalization, as well as a bunch of other issues, too. He's the only one who doesn't seem to be in it for personal gain and is actually serious about the issues at hand.
     
  4. JamesBond007

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  5. etkearne

    etkearne Resident Pharmacologist

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    I searched my entire inbox for that damned email so I could show it to you all, but I can't find it. I must have deleted it in anger right after I first read it...or...the government deleted it from all recipients so that we could not propagate their idiotic agenda. haha.
     
  6. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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    I believe the text of the email is on the whitehouse petition site under "responses".... It's pretty lame though and not really worth the read, unless for it's comical value.
     
  7. primalflow

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    Pull your heads out of Uncle Sam's ass. Voting any which way will "legalize" nothing. I quote legalize because the only real laws are those of nature.

    I can't believe people still think these people do what we say. I live in California where legalization was shot down about a year ago. Do you really believe CALIFORNIANS voted against it? Having lived here all my life, I can tell you it's bullshit, because it really is difficult to find someone who doesn't partake or even someone who doesn't and is against legalization.

    They just do whatever the fuck they want, and I think it's time we do the same. These are our rights whether other people say so or not, so if they don't like it, FUCK 'EM, we don't like what they're doing either. They can't jail everybody, or even anybody, if we resist, but then again, you're probably all a bunch of pussies, so....
     
  8. etkearne

    etkearne Resident Pharmacologist

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    I'd prefer to not be jailed to be perfectly honest. While idealistically, your view is nice, in practice, it is not that applicable unless you are comfortable with being in a jail or prison. And I certainly would do just about anything to avoid being placed in such an institution.
     
  9. primalflow

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    Then don't go. These people are not gods and demigods. They're just fucking people, and a vast minority of people at that.
     
  10. etkearne

    etkearne Resident Pharmacologist

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    You do realize that resisting arrest will result in getting shot with a firearm, inflicting likely a non-fatal wound, but severe enough as to cause unconsciousness, during which I would be hastily shipped to the prison in question.
     
  11. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    I pick fishing line.
     
  12. primalflow

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    You seem to really be convinced of the almighty grandeur of "the government". Again, they are only people, and a vast minority. Fear solves nothing. Do you think your forefathers that got you here only did so because it was garaunteed that all would go smoothly? They would be ashamed.
     
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBMYxoveUNY&feature=related"]Legalize Marijuana... - YouTube

    :)
     
  14. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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    Funny.... That was my first thought too.
     
  15. jo_k_er_man

    jo_k_er_man TBD

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    Fuck yeah! Our forefathers stole the exploitation of native americans from the French.. and then relocated them.. and nearly eradicated their existence... They killed mexicans to secure the southern part of the states... Our forefathers showed that you can be free.... as long as you can exploit the lesser man... and destroy your enemies
     
  16. primalflow

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    Good point. I should have worded it better, but the statement still stands. History has its examples of people who actually fought against opression, and none of them did so with the garauntee that there would be no problems. In fact we have more of a garauntee of that than any of them ever did, and yet somehow, we're all more afraid than ever.
     
  17. etkearne

    etkearne Resident Pharmacologist

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    But prima flow, what are you saying a person like myself would hypothetically do? The government has trillions of dollars of resources, the most efficient and brutal prison system in the modern world, and has most of it's citizens feeling the same attitude towards "dirty" Cannabis users (at least where I live...).

    I would almost certainly die if I resisted arrest. Are you really saying I should martyr myself for this cause? It would take hundreds of thousands of martyrs to actually change the way the people look at the government's brutality. I just don't think that is going to occur.

    There must be a less dangerous way to go about this. Please share any thoughts or ideas. It is a fascinating subject.
     
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    It's hypocritical to ban the use of marijuana for health reasons since it's less dangerous than alcohol. In Fact, Alcohol kill people but as the research says there are no death caused by smoking Marijuana.
     
  19. lovelyxmalia

    lovelyxmalia Banana Hammock Lifetime Supporter

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    It really doesn't surprise me that the government won't pass the legalization.

    They honestly need someone to get in their face and show them the facts.

    The government refuses to believe that marijuana is helpful, and I assume they will continue to feel that way until they know exactly what they're dealing with.

    People against marijuana are just afraid of it. All we know is "how bad it is." No one knows how good, in fact, it can be to just about everyone.
     
  20. stinkfoot

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    I see the government as being little more than a corporate facade. Rhetoric that is based on the premise that any individual as president will be able to effect meaningful change seems to miss this and is itself a barrier to meaningful reform- not only to the unjust laws against cannabis but also but also the corporate fascist state that is fostering the economic injustice.

    The justification for the laws is all about health but clearly public health doesn't register with our "leaders" as much as they would have us believe. The issue is money- and the pharmaceutical subset of the corporate puppet masters would stand to lose money if cannabis were legalized. If public health were really a concern, many of the chemicals that sit on grocery shelves- labeled as legitimate food would be banned- but the conditions precipitated by these poisons helps to support the for obscene profit system of individual financial destruction mechanism known as health care as peoples conditions make them conscripts to it often for the rest of their lives.

    Further, rhetoric like "give it time" seems to reflect the assumption that it is someone else's job to effect justice and it is arguably that very premise that has fostered the situation we find ourselves in now. It seems pretty clear to me that career politicians- regardless of party affiliation or labels as reformer have little real interest in standing up for a population that is proven to be unwilling to stand up for itself. Those politicians figure out what speech is most effective in placating then they use the mollified silence to pursue the corporate agenda that the big money dictates.

    There isn't going to be any legalization of marijuana until either the corporate influence that calls the shots sees such change as being in their interest or that the corporate influence is removed from the government. Then and only then will those who call themselves reformers will have any chance to prove themselves.
     

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