How easy was it? I have limited lab experience, but am a fast learner, if that means anything. I've read five different syths online, and the one that interested me most is MDMA via MDP2P and Nitromethane. Anyone ever try this? If so, how difficult was it to acquire all chemicals? I know getting a safrole rich substance would be tricky, but what about everything else? Is there any other listed chemicals besides that and nitromethane invovled? By the way, this is designed purly to satisty my curiosity..and me very much appreciate those willing to tackle the task. Drugs are bad, bad news, and anyone who tries them is surely to end up living in a van down by the river!
I am curious about this as well. I don't think I've seen a thread about synthesizing your own MDMA... sorry to get your hopes up with a response but I'm waiting on replies as well.
Im curious, I know where there are sassafras trees.. isnt that what they use? We used to pull off the leaves and chew them. they are sweet.. is that the same tree??
Most (if not all, though you can never say "all" for sure because there are always exceptions) ecstasy and mdma makers are chemists or have students working on a chemistry degree- my guess would be leave it to the professionals!
to the op do you really think someone is gonna bust on this forum and tell you how he gets his supplies to manufacture his highly illegal drug?
Seen it done with a semester or two of collage level chem. Lab was in the basement of a rented home, and didn't take very much space. Understand lab procedure and the like and you will figure out what to do.
It's not so much that the actual chemistry processes are that hard (distillations and vacuum separation are pretty easy) it's the fact that good old LEO will know exactly what your intentions are if you start ordering this magic list of chemicals. Yes, most aren't too bad/have a loophole around them but there are a couple (palladium chloride, and the other "photo" chemicals) that will probably arise suspicion...certainly saffrole would be a pretty big red flag, and yes...Orison those are the same trees. In theory you could distill your own saffrole from sassafras, however, you'd need quite a bit since the rootbark contains most of the saffrole, or an enormous woodchipper I suppose and a MASSIVE distiller. I've never synthed MDMA but have done the reading and decided that it probably is just best to leave it to the experts and buy an ecstasy test kit...hell even ordering glassware in certain areas can get you busted...thanks meth for that one.
if you know basic lab procedures,how to use a Wok Still (or any other distillation device/glassware setup),how to use a reflux condenser, and how to get the other reagents without appearing suspicious you are in business. Its not the hardest of synths, but its not as simple as baking a cake. you can fuck up and create something totally different than what you were going for. you can also get hurt. Usually the precursors are quite hard to get and you have to have a special source or make them yourself. extracting your own mescaline from dried cactus i think would be a lot more in your alley. its really easy and there is a method that you can use with all food grade chemicals. nothing toxic to get yourself hurt with. and besides mescaline pwns mdma. the tek for extracting mescaline with non toxic chemicals: http://www.dmt-nexus.com/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=4002
WTF? He's asking about MDMA and you reccomend mescaline? That's not even close to the same. And OP, it can be done, but it's getting fucking hard. They're watching the precursors like a hawk. Try looking for other routes to MDP2P other than safrole.
it was just a suggestion. i already told him the deal. OP is better off going for something doable rather than a pipe dream like this one. they are structurally similar phenethylamines however their subjective effects are somewhat different. In my opinion MDMA is crap anyways. makes you feel like shit afterwards. and the other routes to mdp2p are fucking hard. eugenol, piperonol ect.
Its not hard at all if you got experience i could get the steps on making it my bro has a lot of shit on this PM if your interested
Can't you just make your own palladium chloride with some palladium ingots or rounds and hydrochloric acid? People buy palladium metal all the time for investment value (it's a precious metal, even has it's own international currency code like gold, silver and platinum). Google Stillwater Palladium. They're a big company. It seems to me this would be cheaper and less suspicious. And yes, some photography supply companies won't sell hydroquinone without major hassles. Even though it's not a listed chem or even on the "special surveillance list" because they KNOW it is used in the in mdma production. Safrole, yes, very hard to get. Buying sassafras oil in any kind of large amount by mail is a absolute fool's game. I've chatted to someone that claimed to have done the work to get safrole from sassafras trees. He said, in a few words: "not worth the trouble." He spent all day digging and chopping up roots and tearing off the rootbark with two other people only to end up with like 6 grams of some low grade shitty safrole when it was all said and done.
it is surprisingly easy to get the chemicals you need to make most drugs. but ive never attempted to make anything, due to my lack of chemistry skills.