Who here is a Fascist?

Discussion in 'Fascism' started by water_baby, Oct 29, 2005.

  1. water_baby

    water_baby Senior Member

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    Which one of you clowns are right wing fascists?
     
  2. Ash_Freakstreet

    Ash_Freakstreet Hmm.... GROOVY!

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    I am.

    But you are mistaken... Fascists aren't right wingers... they are radical moderates.
     
  3. water_baby

    water_baby Senior Member

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    If you're a Fascist then why do you have a poster of Marx?
     
  4. Ash_Freakstreet

    Ash_Freakstreet Hmm.... GROOVY!

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    because Karl Marx is one of the ideological predecessors of Fascism.
     
  5. water_baby

    water_baby Senior Member

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    The true Fascists despise Marx, you are an imposter! You should be purged by Stalin!
     
  6. _chris_

    _chris_ Marxist

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    Stalin wasnt a fascist either. he was a stalinist...
     
  7. *Ewan*

    *Ewan* Member

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    Well he did go after jews, ukranians and gays in his time. So he did have his facist tendancies.
     
  8. Communism

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    You've got jokes.

    Now tell us, how is Karl Marx "one of the ideological predecessors of Fascism"?

    How do you believe marxists define fascism?
     
  9. *Ewan*

    *Ewan* Member

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    yeh, i mean workers of the world unite. That's sutch a facist phrase. It has white supremicism written all over it.
     
  10. water_baby

    water_baby Senior Member

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    bullshit.
     
  11. hippypaul

    hippypaul Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    Now wait a few - are we talking about fascism as a political theory, Historical German National Socialism, or current white supremacists. I have seen reference to all three.
     
  12. hippypaul

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    The term fascism has come to mean any system of government resembling Mussolini's, that in various combinations:

    exalts the nation and party above the individual, with the state apparatus being supreme.
    stresses loyalty to a single leader, and submission to a single nationalistic culture.
    engages in economic totalitarianism through the creation of a Corporatist State, where the divergent economic and social interests of different races and classes are combined with the interests of the State.

    hummmmm sounds like the republic of Bush to me (grin)
     
  13. *Ewan*

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    Lol, well thats contradictory to socialism, where the workers rather than the owners of the means of production take over the state apparatus.
     
  14. hippypaul

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    And then having taken over the means of production they are motivated to continue to build and improve these means of production by?
     
  15. ZePpeLinA

    ZePpeLinA Jump around!

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    that's the craziest thing i've heard today. actually the whole week.
     
  16. *Ewan*

    *Ewan* Member

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    So, they were called the national socialists, big deal, they were pretty evidently anti-socialists, they rounded them all up; socialists and trade union leaders. Everyone knows that socialism and nationalism are incompatable.
     
  17. _chris_

    _chris_ Marxist

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    sly dig at the ssp, no?


    i agree anyway
     
  18. hippypaul

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    Clears throat - and points upward to his previous question.
     
  19. shaggie

    shaggie Senior Member

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    Hitler was good at using the bait-and-switch method. That doesn't mean socialism is bad, although the shallow argument is sometimes made trying to associate him with socialism and use it as a guilt-by-association ploy.

    The Republican party once held ideals about reducing debt, running a balanced budget, efficiency in government, etc. But the party in recent years has been hijacked by a small group of neocons who are also good at using bait-and-switch tactics. That doesn't imply that the conservative ideals of the Republican party decades ago were a sham.

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