why cant a perfect system be rationally deduced?

or has it been done already

"Because humans are imperfect" is not an acceptable answer.

 

A perfect system of what?

 

political or economic

 

have you ever had a discussion, political spiritual or economical, in which you both conceded, and came to well thought out decisions.

The idea exists but it will only eixst if all involved have nothing to gain and wish well being for those also involved.

 

...because it has to be induced.

 

That depends on your definition of a perfect system.

 

I personally think perfection is unattainable. Name one thing that is perfect. If you had titled your thread why can't a practical, sustainable solution be deduced, then perhaps there would be something to talk about.

 

1. Lacking nothing essential to the whole
2. Being without defect or blemish

I'm curious as to why you think perfection, by the above definition is unattainable.

 

Name one thing that is seen by everyone as pefect. Life is relative and all see everything in relation to their own existence. Nothing is perfect in relation to everyone. and everything

 

everyone, is not capable of rational deduction.

and someones inability to recognize perfection is irrelevant

 

So who determines exactly who is capable of rational deduction? Hedge Fund Managers?


Answer me this: Name one thing that is absolutely perfect. And by your answer I will determine whether or not you are capable of rational deduction and should be responsible for making decisions on my behalf.

 

no one decides what is probable and what is not, the same way no one can decide that the earth is flat and make it so. reason determines who is capable.

mind you an error made in unison is still an error, as is the case with an error of probability, or rationality itself, but then again, that's why people disagree.

also, flaw is a fabrication. their is nothing perfect or imperfect about the stars or a planet, they just exist, and their is nothing more to be said about it. but we aren't talking about something that cannot be rationally disputed. we are talking about a political or economic system.

 

Why do you need a system at all?


In my opinion, the perfect "system" would probably be some form of Anarcho-communism, which would be completely unpractical today.


It would require a total loss of ego and a massive paradigm shift.

 

Perfect for who/what?

Does this system include ethics for microbes? Or are there land owners/private property? Should we all be batteries feeding the machine of civilization?

If most of us can't even figure out who we truly are, how can we know what's "perfect" for us?

 

Exactly. Everyone doesn't want the same thing, so no one system can please everybody.

 

You are capable of answering those questions.

I look forward to reading your conclusion.

 

You are really lazy, aren't you?

 

A perfect sewer

"System" is the word the Romans used for sewer.

Only sheep-people want a system to lord over them and manage them.

How about NO system at all? How is that for a "radical idea?"

Unfortunately, most people are too conditioned from living in THIS current sewer system to ever live above the surface, where the skies are blue and the air is fresh. No, they need people (ie. corporate-controlled politicians and bureaucrats) to keep them in line and tell them what to do.

 

exhausted more like

from reading responses about what the human race cannot become.

pre-packaged responses, all in a box.

 

Still depends on your definition of a perfect system.
A perfect system in my eyes would be one that eliminates the classist struggle or reduces it to a great extent, while focusing on education as the necessity to advancement and prosperity and utilizing direct democracy in government.