Why do people disagree about things?

Discussion in 'Philosophy and Religion' started by heeh2, Sep 6, 2010.

  1. heeh2

    heeh2 Senior Member

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    Why do people disagree?
     
  2. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    Because there's more than one belief and perspective through which to see the world
     
  3. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    you're wrong, people don't disagree
     
  4. Rudenoodle

    Rudenoodle Minister of propaganda Lifetime Supporter

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    If everyone agreed life would be boring.
     
  5. Chapter13

    Chapter13 Member

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    assumptions ... everyone's are different
     
  6. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    He who doesn't hold any true beliefs will never come to renege.
    Nietzsche doesn't make men little, quite the opposite, he tries to show them they can be super. It's true, we do want to relate to one master plan. Because we want comfort. Only when we are sure of what comes after death can we be truly comfortable. So is it any real surprise then why so many people run to religion to find this comfort?
     
  7. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    On the most profound level I have to agreeeee. We don't factually disagree, we disagree on interpretation of fact.
     
  8. neuroptican

    neuroptican ...hadouken!

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    So we don't actually factually disagree, we factually actually disagree on interpretation.
     
  9. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    That's funny. We don't so much disagree on what is, we mostly disagree on the individual interpretation of what is.
     
  10. deleted

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    whatever dude...
     
  11. relaxxx

    relaxxx Senior Member

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    Except for the millions of young earth creationists who actually reject facts and accept fantasy.
     
  12. yyyesiam2

    yyyesiam2 Senior Member

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    lots of reasons, right?

    the first that comes to mind is that there is some sort of subjective unpleasantness that the person doing the disagreeing associates with what they are disagreeing with.

    so, maybe to change things/circumstances/subjective feelings?

    what do you think, heeh2?
     
  13. heeh2

    heeh2 Senior Member

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    Knowledge, basically.

    I wouldn't say something like.......two people that were talking about the taste of ice cream were disagreeing if one of them said its good and the other said its nasty because what they are really saying is whether the subjective quality of the ice cream is favorable to them.

    Every human acknowledges sooner or later that the aesthetics of things like taste and appearance is subjective because there is so much contrast in our opinions. We disagree about the "beauty" in almost everything.

    Disagreements stem from the event in which the line between 'subjective' and 'fact' is disregarded.

    Meaning: Its not reasonable to use your feelings as justification in a decision to do something to or with someone else, unless

    1. The feeling is mutual.
    and, or
    2. The feeling is supported by facts.

    Of coarse i just pulled these 'rules' from my brain. There could be flaws somewhere...
     
  14. DrKlunk

    DrKlunk weewoo island

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    The reason we disagree is because no one actually knows
     
  15. heeh2

    heeh2 Senior Member

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    No one actually knows what?
     
  16. DrKlunk

    DrKlunk weewoo island

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    The truth. We assume we know based on conclusions met by other people derived from their experience. In all "reality" we know as much as we dont. Its not a matter of whose right and whose wrong but a matter of how close to any sort of truth something is; which is something no one knows.

    Agreeing and disagreeing comes from our ego. That is the part of us that is right or wrong, it is what binds us to this body and earth. Our subconscious has no need to object, argue, fight, whatever because within that part of our psychology lies what I believe to hold truth and it is unattainable. The only reason we cant imagine a world without argument is because we dont know what its like... which is why we're arguing it.

    Get what Im saying?
     
  17. Chapter13

    Chapter13 Member

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    anything... it's all assumption based on personal perception and interpretation.. i said that a page ago... try to keep up at the back! :eek:
     
  18. heeh2

    heeh2 Senior Member

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    If everything is an assumption, what does the word "fact" mean.
     
  19. Dejavu

    Dejavu Until the great unbanning

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    As they used to say back in the day:

    "De gustibus non est disputandum"

    -Quit the bullshit, this is a stick-up
     
  20. heeh2

    heeh2 Senior Member

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    I don't think I understand. There is truth in me saying to myself that I feel things, and that is self evident. The fact that they are self evident to me leads me to believe that a being of the same species with negligible differences feels the same thing. I have plenty of reasons to believe other humans can see the way i see, but not so many to believe they don't.


    I really don't understand the underlined part.
     
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