Why do you think homosexuals are homosexuals ?

I'm sorry, if such a topic is here, but I was unable to find it.
This question has been bothering me since I was 14, because I had quite a problem with my sexuality. I am hetero since that time, because I won a psychical battle against homosexuality, but I think I can be a bisexual, as it depends on what I choose myself to be, but I dont see any emotive point in that, because of a barrier, which was created during that psychical battle. If I succeed to remove it, I guess I can be completely open and free as for feelings and so, I dont really know. What do you think ?

 

I think you should do whatever would make you happy. Its up to you to decide if you think you will be able to ignore those certaine feelings that will be kept locked away , or will they begin to eat at you the older you get.
And , you need to decide just why you kept them locked away in the first place , if you felt they were wrong , could you actually act on them , and , once you do , it wont just go away so you can pretend it didnt happen .
You need to be verry sure of what you really want for the rest of your life.

 

Why are you fighting your sexuality? Accept yourself for what you are gay, bi, or straight.

Good luck in your journey to accept your true orientation.

 

Hmm, thanks for your opinions. I am not gay, thats for sure, because I love one girl, which I want to marry one day. She has a boyfriend, but WE understand each other better than They do, but I guess the girl does not know what she wants. On the other hand, maybe I will find another super girl like her and someday if we have a routine in bed, you know and we invite one man to come to a scrap with us, maybe I wil react positively and I will find out. And I know one bi or gay boy here, so maybe we can make an experiment. Thanks a lot. And what about answering the topics question , hmm ?

 

"Maybe s/he's born with it."

 

I have always known that I was gay. I was born gay and I do not believe it is a choice. I exited the closet at the age of 17.

 

The question in your title is
Why do you think homosexuals are homosexuals?

I answered that question in a particularly nasty thread titled, "Would you cure homosexuality if you could." I was unable to find that discussion, but I want to answer you question after I comment on your post.

I have never heard of a psychical battle that someone can make against homosexuality. But it doesn't sound healthy. And I am curious about what kind of barrier can be erected after such a battle. I gather the battle was to make yourself straight, if your battle was indeed physical then it might indicate that you are gay, or at least bi, and trying to convert yourself to straight.

Why do I think homosexuals are homosexuals?

The answer to that question is complicated. I will try to make this brief.


Our sexual orientation* is developed by the time we are two years old, we have little choice ourselves in the matter. There is evidence to show that your sexual orientation* is created before birth or shortly there after. There is no way to "cure" homosexuality.

See: religious tolerance org


The American Psychological Association released a Statement on Homosexuality in 1994-JUL. Their first two paragraphs are:

I see three possible causes of homosexuality, genetic, prenatal, and physical.

1. Genetic
There is evidence to support the existence of genetic factors that make you gay, just like the genetic factors that make you left-handed. Studies show a higher rate of gay siblings than would be expected. I am lucky enough to have a gay brother myself. Research has shown that there also seems to be a genetic link, or connection, to the mother. That is a gay genetic trait may be handed down from the mother, like male pattern baldness.

2. Prenatal
There seems to be a higher instance of men being gay if they are the 3rd or later boy born. This suggests that the mother changes somehow after each successive birth, and in later births she may create different chemicals or hormones which effect the baby's sexual orientation*.

3. Physical
There is some evidence to show that homosexuality is evident in changes in the brain. There has been suggestions that early childhood conditions may influence homosexuality. While this seems to be a sort of freudian myth, many people hang onto it as fact. But there is no evidence that certain conditions like a strong mother or weak father makes you gay. 4 of my brothers turned out straight and we all grew up together.

I have answered how we are born to be gay. And I believe that we will find out that there are actually several contributing factors which may be different for every gay person. Someone may have a gene that makes them gay, others may have become gay because of something that happened in the womb. However we develop as gay, the effect is always the same.

Now as to why? That is anybody's guess. Perhaps God likes gay people. He probably thinks we're very cute and funny and he understands our humor. You know God likes to laugh, -he created the platypus, for gosh sakes.

There are many theories as to why. A theory I recently posted here, debunks Charles Darwin's Origin of the Species. Can't seem to find that post either. In the review, "The Gay Animal Kingdom", Joan Roughgarden suggests that people might be gay or bisexual because it makes us more social. However I believe that as individuals homosexuals have many assets we offer a community. Gay men and Women have been spiritual leaders in many societies since the beginning of history. Is it possible that gay folk have a deeper spiritual connection to god? While others are raising children, gay folks have time to study and learn. In turn, gay people become Teachers, Artists, Musicians and Entertainers. It has long been held as true that we would still be in the dark-ages if it weren't for a handful of gay intellectuals and artists coming together at crucial times throughout history.

So, to answer your question, Why are there gay people? Because without GLBT people, humans could not have survived.
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To me....it is really sad that such an issue is made about who a person chooses to have sex with...and fall in love with.
If it is between two consenting adults...why should it cause so much hate ??

 

haha I thought this quote was funny as hell "Because without GLBT people, humans could not have survived."

Obviously shows a bias, I would disregard everything you said based on that if it weren't mostly fact.

What you said can easily be countered with an equally prejudice statement, there's no point in that so I'll just get my laugh from your biased exalting of gays

 

I hadnt caught that......Im am GAY....and have been prgnant 6 times...and had 4 live births....your facts dont add up.
A lesbian can lay still long enough with a guy to get pregnant !!!!

 

Why is it that if you see 2 gays together out in public some people automatically wonder WHY they are gay...but if we see a guy & woman strolling down the sidewalk holding hands & kissing we think nothing of it.

Well why are straight people straight?
Why are straight people allowed to hold hands or kiss in a restaurant without harressment from a waitress & not a homosexual couple?

 

Honeybunny, because the majority of hetrosexual society does not view the world from your open minded perspective. The majority society views the world as though their lifestyle is the only appropriate, correct, moral (choose your term) one. Unfortuately, it is a closed minded world view.

I have received the fucking homophobic bullshit throughtout my life but, it is a result of straight, mostly men, who are uncomfortable with their own sexuality. If you know who you are, men loving men, womyn loving womyn, should not bother you.

 

You're right, I did overstate my conclusion. Please forgive my hyperbole. What I should have said is: Without GLBT people, human society as we know it would not exist.

I don't understand. I don't think I said that lesbians can't get pregnant. Or did I?

I have to disagree with Squackers, I believe it is a valid question. As a scientific and sociological question, it is pertinent. And considering all of the misinformation from the nut fringe, people should ask us what we think.

But yeah, on a personal level, what the hell's the difference.
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why do you think an elk is an elk - or a chair is a chair?
General Montgommery owned a Bison named Allan !

 

My last lady and i held hands whwever we were and just IGNORED the looks we got...of course , it can be dangerous......but , at the time , we really didnt care.
we slow danced together in straight bars...and i think we even actually kissed a few times , what was funny is we got a lot of dirty looks from other girls....but we fot a lot of grins and cat calls from most of the guys !!!!

 

i get a LOT of nasty looks where I live. It's really obvious I'm gay just from looking (i guess it's just the emo look), like I'm a pink exploding nuclear bomb raining down glitter upon them. The str8s here are so incredibly close-minded and hateful....I love wearing my skin-tight corduroy pants, and extra small tee and going to the local walmart.......I love the attention.....

 

Where did you get this from I carnt see that they could say even before people are born they are gay or straight. I am straight but when I was growing up I know me and another kid experemented with stuff from about the age of 9 till we were 15
After that I just didnt want to do it any more it felt wrong and after that I felt like I needed to stop doing it and try not to think about it and then after a long time maybe 5 or six years I got to the stage where I really didnt think of it no more, and now I have a girlfriend. At the time we experimented it felt good but then one day I just thought it was wrong. I dont think every one is the same. may be some people do that stuff and keep liking it and dont want to do any thing different but others just stop doing it. A lot of my friends said they did stuff with girls when they were young but a couple of my friends admited in private that they experimented with other boys and 1 says he still thinks about it but the other guy said he was like me and stopped doing it

We know people who are gay and they said they felt bad about it when they wre about 16 but just didnt want to do things different.

I dont think anyone can say a baby is gay and even if it is you carnt tell if it is or not until its born thats just a stupid idea

 

I don't think its a stupid idea, we know that sexuality isn't a choice, so our sexuality could be something that is determined when we are being created, as much as our eye colour is.
that doesn't mean that some people don't experiment and try things out then diecide that they don't like it.

I wonder if society wasn't as down on same sex relationships, wether you wouldn't have started feeling bad about it and possibly be leading more of a bisexual life now
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I sited where I got that bit of information from. It was released by The American Psychological Association (the largest group of psychologists and mental health professionals in the US) They came to that conclusion after peer review of years of research. You can find their web site.

Childhood experimentation does not make you gay. Almost every kid fools around with the same sex. You only sleep over with your buddies not girls. And think about the dudes in prison, when they come out they are straight. What you are talking about is situational homosexual activity. It didn't feel right to you at 15, not because you turned straight, but maybe because you matured enough to associate emotional feelings with sex. before that it was just helping a buddy out. When I have sex with my lover, I'm not 'helping him out', I'm expressing my love.

I am not a scientist, but I have read reviews of many of the reports that support what I wrote. The problem is that the information is scientific and it deals with when do you actually become gay. Are you born gay, as the new research indicates, or does some traumatic incident make you gay. The idea that the majority of gay people have had a trauma so awful that they can't remember it, is dumb. Without making assumptions as to how, it seems that we are basically born to be gay, or left handed, or a musician, or just plain stupid.

You develop your sexuality, just like you develop your intellect or your grace. A small child isn't thinking about sex, of course. When I was 5 I knew I wanted to grow up and marry a man. I had no idea all the wonderful things we could do together. Later on you develop 'feelings.' Most straight boys at the age of 10-12 HATE girls. But as time goes by they change their minds. When I 69ed with the kid across the street when I was 11 I may have felt a stronger emotional connection, but it was still just 'getting off' for me, too. Like you said, you know of young boys who experimented with girls; I doubt they were really in love with those girls.

Take Puppy love as an example, it's a stage of learning to love, or learning to express your love. We know ourselves that moment when we have developed beyond that stage; however it may not happen at the same age for everyone.

And by the way, I felt bad about being gay at 16 too, not because I thought it was wrong or evil, but because people would beat you with baseball bats if they knew you were gay.
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hipunk, I am straight but have nothing against people who are gay. What you just wrote there is very important stuff - Its about the emotional content - and the maturity to realise that whatever sexual determination a person is oriented with, maturity almost in a way prohibits the detatchment of emotion from sexual expression. I mean maturity makes the object love - not sex - cheers you just gave a great insight into the way humans work. Its not about which gender you choose to share a bed with - its about what you feelings of love you have for the person you are in bed with.
I think if people just percieved homosexuality as an expression of love rather than thinking of it as a sexual act divorced from love - it would be for the better. Unfortunately I think most straight people, me included, very often dont see how its possible that a man might want sexual activity with another man and so cant imagine expressing that much love to one either.

On reading work like you just wrote, however, it makes it more apparent what it means to be homosexual - its not about the sex as much as the love and - the sex is simply an expression of that !