Why does God hate Africa?

I've been wondering for a while about the absolutely horrific past (and even present, e.g. Sudan) of this continent. It seems that maybe the only ppl God hates about as much (has treated almost as badly) are the Jews. Anyone else wonder about this? Or in the great scheme of things ("Blessed are those who weep and mourn") are the poor ppl of Africa really lucky? OMG what a strange and f*cked up world.

 

I would add Native Americans to the list of people who have faced unimaginable suffering and abuse.
Why? My only potential reasons are that either the people chose to accept such pain before they were born, in order to help the plight of humanity in general, though how that helps is beyond me. Or, the suffering is something that one must go through in order to become more enlightened and progress on one's soul journey. Or, the material world is inherently evil, and these are examples of just how evil it is.
Having said that, I admit, I have no clue, and it is something that I hope to play a part in ending. One day maybe it will no longer be the case. I think it will, but whether we choose to change it, or are forced to is what I don't know. I would bet on the latter.

 

expecially the last line!!!! that's because your a fatalist! poor you! I say Pave Yourself.

NO, JK!! That's not serious. But maybe life itself isn't. It would be cool if it were all a very funny joke. Wouldn't it?

Anyway I totally agree with you. But I'm aslo glad to say I believe in some way Jesus saved us. Maybe so we could get high? Maybe so live wouldn't be so boring? Though many have even passed by the pleasures of this life.

Why?

You do go around calling each other "bloke" right?

 

I call people by their name if I can, if not, I use 'buddy', or 'man', or 'hey you'...
I think life is not to be taken too seriously, but is a gift to be cherished, and is meant to be enjoyed.
I don't think I am a fatalist, just someone who has seen things that made me question the nature of time. One thing is precognitive dreams that I had. I have tried to figure out how this could be possible, and still wonder.

 

Well if you ever start a pay service Monthly Report with your predictions. You can definitely sign me up. Depending I guess on what currency you use and how many dollars it's worth.

I'm happy that I learned tonight that I've got a right to be wrong.

Thank you Jesus!
And Joss Stone!!!! )))))) (<-------- huge barrels of loving hugs)

 

No spiritual type higher powers hate Africa. Africa continues to suffer because of the same reasons there are only 3 threads in this forum.

The higher powers that exist here on earth in reality and the present don't respect Africa or it's native and removed people. No need to look to the sky to find the causes of the suffering of the world.

 

Goddess loves Africa.
Put your ear to the Earth right there and hear Her heart beating like the thunder of a thousand hooves; the flapping of a million wings...
The dust rises, the voices chant, the mountains rise to the sky.
Why can our hearts not hear?
Her poverty is the poverty of a world soul that lacks compassion.
It is the obscenity of a world full of people whose greed and selfishness knows no bounds.
Mother forgive them, for they know not what they do to eachother...
In Her name may milk flow from the breast of every weakened, starving mother who cries to feed the hungry child at her breast.
My heart weeps...

 

thanks for those two honest replies.

But neither one answers my question.

A there is a GOD (GODDESS, whatever you like) and HE?SHE has not created a world conducive to the ease of existence free from constant perilous fear for the ppl of Africa (from the Egyptians to the 1800s and into Sudan and other countries today) that most of us have taken for granted.

so, nice tries. Please try again.

cheers

 

what EXACTLY is your question?

 

I can't see the pay thing ever happening. Alas, I have never known which dreams will be the ones that later happen in real life. The only way I know they were precog. is when I all of a sudden am there where I was in the dream. Some of them happen within days, and one happened over 8 years later. I did not even know what to call them, and had to research it online, cuz I knew they weren't predictions if I didn't know which ones would happen, they weren't deja vu, cuz I didn't feel like it happened before, and I found out about precognitive dreams, which is the definition they fit. They are rare, vivid, and very exact in detail, so I remember them quite well. One other thing is that in three of them, celebrities were present. Not necessarily my favorite ones, but ones I admire. I only mention it cuz it is something that is in common for three of them. The one that I feel came about 8 years later was not exact like the rest, but it was symbolic, and had a bunch of features that I wondered about for all those years. I never forgot it, and now feel that I know what the odd things in it meant. It makes sense now........so long as I ignore the whole defying logic and science angle..........lol

 

I think the question is something like, " Why does God allow so much suffering to happen to certain groups of people? with African people and Jewish people, as examples."
I hope smlchnce corrects me if that is wrong.

I recall the concept that we never get more put on our plate than we can handle, and I tend to agree with that. This might mean that the pain, suffering, death, and misery that people endure is somehow related to their ability to cope with it. In my life, greatly painful events have generally led to my having learned something valuable. No pain, no gain.
One other thought, I once was told that before we are born, we agree to whatever events will happen to us in our upcoming incarnation. I know it is hard to believe, but for me, it is the best explanation for why some wonderful, selfless souls have seen so much tragedy in their lives. It is hard to make sense of that, since I do not believe the atheist view that it is all just meaningless random chance, luck of the draw, is the answer. imho

 

Since you are god, my dear, you are the only person who can answer that question (for you)...

My goddess self has already answered this for me.

And can I ask you something god? If you don't hate them after all, then I hope you are doing something to show them how much you love them.

In my universe, trying to make some 'external' god/goddess responsible for what happens on earth would be a bit of a cop out. If we human individuals see something here that needs to be changed, the buck stops with us.

IMHO...God is all there is, and we are all made of god stuff, and collectively we are god along with every other thing in the omniverse. The beautiful souls who incarnate in Africa must feel that they have either something to teach or something to learn from the experience. Maybe it is to teach us the value of a human life and how we are all One.
Many of us are starving in our own ways. All of us need compassion. All of us need to act on ther issues we feel passionate about, or our lives are surely wasted.

 

that is a very beautiful post. I really agree with it. but I just don't get the cosmic consciousness has taken sooooooo long to evolve. why?

BGXIII--It's not so much about the old question of pain/suffering but just a strange point that some ppl tend to be treated like crap repeatedly through history. Africa seems the worst. It has to be something more than luck o the draw. I'd say being a white middle-class american beats 70-85% of all other historical existences. Unless I'm wrong about what the purpose of life is. I don't know.

I certaintly do not subscribe to any delusions that I am God. I met him. He's not me.

Now I have a question for you goddess OM: who is responsible for cleaning up a mess the wind has made?

 

If the wind has made a mess in nature, then that's just what the wind does.

It is meant to stir things up...even in its highest power (a tornado) it picks things up and drops them back down some place new. The wind brings change. It does what it does.

If it drops stuff in front of my door and I don't like it, I will clean it up.
If I see that it has dropped stuff on my neighbour's lawn, and he needs help to clean it up, I will help where I can.
If I read that it has caused havoc somewhere else, further away, maybe overseas, then I contribute financially to the cause if I think they need help
to clean up after it (eg. like with the tsunamis).

And I have a question back to you:
If the wind makes a mess...do you blame it for what it did? Do you ask "Why did you do that to those lovely people?" Do you say "The wind hates Goddess Om and her neighbour?"

 

BGXIII--It's not so much about the old question of pain/suffering but just a strange point that some ppl tend to be treated like crap repeatedly through history. Africa seems the worst. It has to be something more than luck o the draw. I'd say being a white middle-class american beats 70-85% of all other historical existences. Unless I'm wrong about what the purpose of life is. I don't know.

smlchance


It is so hard to compare.......like I posted earlier, Native Americans sure have had it rough too. The survivors of the conquest/genocide are still in a terrible struggle.
As for the historical existence point, it is all a matter of taste. I would really like to know what life here where I live was like a couple centuries ago. I know my life would be shorter, and hardships would be harder, but I am pretty sure I would trade places to live here then. I love this area, but it has been suburbed to death.

 

Goddess OmIf the wind has made a mess in nature, then that's just what the wind does.



If it drops stuff in front of my door and I don't like it, I will clean it up.
If I see that it has dropped stuff on my neighbour's lawn, and he needs help to clean it up, I will help where I can.




That is my view too, that it is not so much who is responsible, as who will take the initiative and just do it. If it needs doing, and we can help, then take on the responsibility to help. Great things get done when no one cares who gets the credit.
The character of a person is clearly shown when a crisis hits others, and the opportunity to help is there. Some will walk away, pretending they didn't notice or else rationalizing that others have it all under control, some will offer their sympathy and advice, and some will just get right in there and make things better as best they can.
Leave the campsite in better shape than it was when you found it. The camper's creed.

 

I have too agree with you. Not that i go on and on about Africa .. this is the first time i have been in this forum. I just noticed another thing being blamed on god and people justifying or explaining why god does these things. I am just going to say putting god into every context and situation does not make it any more true. We perpetualy go on and on about something to blame.. well blame the earth for rotating around the sun .. blame the african goverments for spending all the money blame western goverments for their share of the blame.. blame anything else but god .. because god is a notion of us as a species not some force within the universe , sooner more people realise that the better. jesus christ !!. .. see this spiritual stuff even gets too people that don't care for it.

 

Yeah, I try to catch myself in those moments when my head is saying "Why doesn't xxx do something about this" or "Why does God let this happen"...
I have to stop myself and listen to my heart, then realise that my own Spirit has incarnated here to try to help these people and solve these problems.
God/Goddess is already trying to help us all by moving the soul in each of us towards compassionate action and love for eachother.
Reach out and touch somebody...be the light, be the change, be the hope...

 

God has decided, in his infinite wisdom, to allow free will to exist. its hard to understand with my limited wisdom the sense in this. but i have to say that i do like my own free will. so when bad things happen, maybe its not god making them happen, yet he does have to allow it to happen, because he allows you to do things too.

 

There can be no success without failure. The freedom to fail, make mistakes, and choose your own path is what life is. If we had no choice, and some say that we do have no choice, and just react as we have been conditioned to, then life would be more empty to me. What motivates someone who cannot choose what to do? We would be drones, and the joy of life would be dulled, for me anyway.


Africa is the victim of centuries of plundering and abuse by outside powers that did not care what havoc they caused, and many still don't care.
Just like here at home, I see the same thing still going..........and denial by most.