Why don't I trip hard?

So I've had a bunch of psychedelics lately.

Mushrooms - no matter how much I have, I mostly just get a sense of well-being. Other people will be tripping their butts off from the same mushrooms.

Acid - Again, mostly just had the giggles

Bromaline - nothing - boring

DMT - It was intense as hell, but I had very little in the way of visuals, just got up and started dancing...

Now I'm not schizophrenic or otherwise psychotic, even when I was a teen, I remember getting intense visuals once for like 30 seconds.

So what do yall think? Am I just not getting good enough stuff or enough of a dose? You ever hear of people that just don't trip hard?

 

Are you trying to control the trip?

 

No... I don't even know what that means.

 

I wonder if I might somehow mentally block some of the trip.

The DMT was really weird because how I remember:

I was somewhat drunk, a friend was giving me fistfulls of mushrooms for free and I was gobbling them up (this was immediately prior to smoking the DMT which he swear he saw the process from root to finish). I smoked one hit and he was like, have another one, you should have two and my head was like wahwahwhoa and his face looked like ultra 2D and I was like "are you sure? I'm pretty sure one was enough" and I like don't really remember (hazy if at all) but another friend lit the pipe while he held it. And I had NO CONCEPT of time, but the next thing i remember, I was dancing my way out of the room we were in and he was like, "I've NEVER seen someone trip like that before, usually people just sit back and zone out"

So like, I don't know if there was a time, between that 2nd hit and me dancing out the door, that my mind/memory/consciousness like blocked out. But I don't remember having any visuals beyond looking at his face when he told me to have another hit. I was told I sat for less than a minute before i got up.

 

sometimes, your wisdom gets in the way..

Or you just havent tripped enough, and or getting weak substances..

 

What I meant by controlling the trip...

Back in the stone age when I was doing psychedelics I had a much higher tolerance than my peers. This was mostly due to my mind not allowing the trip to take control... I was controlling the trip instead. It was a mind game for me, how much can I do without "losing it". I was typically at doses 2-3 times what other's were doing at the same time with the same stuff, sometimes more than that.

 

I def think that to some extent, the substances I'm getting are not strong enough. The mushrooms all come from 2 (maybe 3) sources and they are all of the wider stem, round but open cap, monochrome (all earth-tone no reddish colors) variety.

You can tell how much *I* know about mushrooms...

I just wonder what it will take for me to trip my ass off and I worry that I'm going to take too much trying...

 

its fun when you get your ass handed back to you by psychedelics. unless of course you have some major responsibilities in your life.

 

Alcohol can dampen the effects of Psychedelics so if you drink often with them that can be one reason, also some medications can counteract Psychedelics.

Some people seem to just require higher amounts of psychedelics, a breakthrough trip on DMT for me is usually 3-5 large inhalations for instance.

Set and setting is important as well, so mushrooms excel out in nature or in a dark room, maybe you'll get more from them in a different setting and taking your full dose all at once.

 

Part of it may be you are equating "tripping" with weird visuals.

Tripping is much more than just visuals.
Some people just don't get a lot of visual effects from psychedelics.
If I remember Aldous Huxley said he never experienced any fantastic visual effects from psychedelics.

Weed often can increase the visual effects of psychedelics.

 

Yeah, I had one mushroom trip, that was pretty intense, from one small mushroom (cap+stem in tact) during which I could not stuff laughing my ass off at everything and thinking everything that people thought and said was ridiculous, contrived, self-serving and pretentiously intellectual... That was alot of fun. I guess I was kind of a jerk, but I'm pretty sure i didn't hurt any feelings

 

When you trip a bit you get more aware of it. After having one hardcore breakthrough experience you may notice them more other times.

Stop worrying about the trip, and you'll realize you're tripping balls.

Take more.

Make sure to wait for tolerance each time.

Some people don't really have visuals. Not that big a deal or change, really.

You may have been taking little doses with lightweights, or people who have no idea what tripping hard is like, or people who think that tripping is cool but are afraid of it, so they lie.

What the hell is bromaline?

 

You might also be expecting too much. just enjoy. I personally don't go hard on shrooms, I think they're very hit and miss in quality anyways, but acid definitely does the trick.

 

Pretty sure anyone can trip hard. Lots of good advice in this thread, personally I find LSD to be what sends me off the easiest though I have had ego death on a mushroom trip. If all you want is to trip really hard then just take a lot more than you have before. Have fun once you get there.

 

Everyone (pretty much) can, but there are people who don't have much for visuals until they're waaaaaaay beyond tripping "hard".

I mean, I can be having a hell of a mental trip and not see a damn thing, and I'm not that hardheaded, I don't think.

Although I'm talking about LSD, which is generally highly variable and unpredictable within each experience, even.

 

I call this having a hard head


I had a buddy of mine in Egypt that sometimes would have to eat twice the dose of mushrooms just to get a slight buzz and sometime didn't get anything and he was eating the same stuff everyone else was and we were all tripping balls so it wasn't bad mushrooms.


And other times he tripped just fine....... we coukd never figure out a rhyme or reason for this problem.

 

Some people are immune. Looks like you also are.

On other forums there were few people which never got strong effects.

( don't do too much, you can still die )

 

almost same boat, man. i got a nice feeling on shrooms and a brightening of lights, and that was only on a small dose, so i'm sure i'd trip balls if i downed a decent couple,

but acid has basically NO effect on me whatsoever, except a feeling of being slighlty uncomfortable, just buzzy enough that i can't sleep for 13 hours while everyone around me giggles insanely, but not buzzy enough to enjoy it. i even doubled the dose everyone else had taken on one ocassion, experienced some really really mild visuals (so mild i couldnt tell if i was just over-tired- like i say, it gives me insomnia- stuff i had to deliberately unfocus my eyes for) i've tripped harder coming down off MD then i ever have on a psychadelic, i've tripped harder on weed than acid.

 

That's right, so make sure you don't accidentally eat 3,000-4,000 hits of LSD or consume over a pound of mushrooms.
If your not sure, only eat one sheet of acid and always weigh your shrooms to be on the safe side. You don't want to OD.

 

Seems to me that it could be what a few people mentioned, that they just don't hit you hard. The commonality I see in the things you mentioned was tryptamines. I'm not sure how common this is but, (might sound odd) seems to me everyone I've heard of like this is female. Another member here reports similar experiences.
I (attempted to) share a trip with a girl with 4acodmt, 30mgs each at a show and while I tripped VERY hard (mostly due to setting) she didn't hardly feel a thing.
On the other hand, I shared a microdot with the same girl a few months before that and it blew her mind. In her chatter I could tell she was experiencing all the great new interconnections and revelations that lucy is so good at revealing. Kept talking about the intense visuals and rainbows permeating through everything.
From what you've said, sounds to me like your just a trypt hardhead. I'd also say as others did don't judge the level of psychedelia by visuals. While I have had some nice ones, I'm one that doesn't get strong ones either. They tend to be grounded in reality, enhancing of details type. Even with a couple ego-loss experiences on lucy I've never seen melting objects, animated things that aren't really there, etc. That's just me.
I'd suggest seeing if phenethylamines have the same effect for you. See if you can come across some 2C-e or mescaline and give that a whirl. From the quantity of shrooms you've taken, or smoked DMT, with those responses, I suspect trypts aren't for you. As for the L, you didn't say how much you had but blotters these days tend to be weak or some RC (that may be a subbed trypt as well)
Except for the one post above, I've never heard of someone immune to legit lucy once you get over the 100-150 ug range, and I have never read of it having no effect on someone in the years of research literature out there.
Also as mentioned, ditch the alcohol before dropping and weed does potentiate substances for most people.