Why Don't You Believe?

Discussion in 'Philosophy and Religion' started by BraveSirRubin, Apr 15, 2009.

  1. BraveSirRubin

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    Some Christians stopped me on campus today while I was riding my bike. They asked me if I believed in God, I said no. They asked me why. I couldn't answer, I really had to take a shit and didn't have time to talk to some damn Christians.

    How would you have answered the question though?

    (Don't bother if you are a Christian, because you're obviously going to hell and I don't want to be associated with a sinner)
     
  2. BraveSirRubin

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    I do but it gets redundant.
     
  3. Penny

    Penny Supermoderaginaire

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    Because there's no proof. Yet I'm an agnostic, so I don't really don't believe.. it's complicated. My usual answer is "it's not what you think and it's complicated".
     
  4. odon

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    ...because it is a load of bollocks.
     
  5. BraveSirRubin

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    Agnostic usually means "indecisive" in my book.

    Just like "moderate".
     
  6. wally m

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    because you can live the terrible life of a sinner right up to a moment before death a say God I'm sorry please help. And he will. maybe maybe not what do I know.
     
  7. TopNotchStoner

    TopNotchStoner Georgia Homegrown

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    I think there MAY be a god, but I'm not sure which one, if any. Of ALL of the religions in the world, there's no way of knowing which one is the correct one, because everyone is SO convinced that what they believe is fact, but there is no proof of ANY God.

    Even though I think it's possible that there is a god, I'm more convinced that there isn't. I'm just not sure, but I know that either scenario is possible. I don't really give a fuck though, either way. lol
     
  8. Quoth the Raven

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    I ask them if they believe in unicorns and magical elves. If they say no, then I ask 'well why don't you?'

    If they say yes I back away slowly making no sudden moves.
     
  9. nesta

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    i am certainly no christian, but i'm pretty far from an atheist. but i don't really bother explaining to people because my ideas are about as crazy as anyone elses, and i really don't want to listen to their bullshit so i dont give them my own. i just leave and get away from them if they're hassling me, and if i have to be a little rude so be it, but i am not going to be intentionally hostile. if its someone door to door i'll tell them i dont want to talk right now and close the door if they start saying anything beyond "all right, have a nice day"
     
  10. mystical_shroom

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    I usually hear them out, listen to what they have to say.. And then I ask questions and or point out the flaws in their statements, and so forth, usually leaves them tongue-tied to where they can't really answer or repeat themselves or won't answer me period...

    And that's when I say..."my point exactly.."
     
  11. Vanilla Gorilla

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    The last world youth day was held in Sydney, last year I think.

    We got inundated with the worlds young catholics.

    That was a real eye opener, they all seem happy in one way, all had great teeth.

    But just about all of them had this look, like their head was about to expode if they didnt have sex soon.

    Too much repression is not healthy
     
  12. Kinky Ramona

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    Honestly, I don't deny the existence of a god, but I think religion gives the idea of a higher power way too much credit. I've decided the reason why I am not a Christian is I'm just too fucking smart to follow a book full of contradictions, hatred, and nonsense.
     
  13. TopNotchStoner

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    I don't like the idea of Christianity, in general. It's basically built around the idea of kissing "god's" ass, just to get into heaven. It seems like "God" wouldn't want kissasses as his children. People follow christianity for the wrong reasons anyway. They are christians because it's what they were brought up to believe and most of them never stop to think, for themselves, what they really believe and how they feel. They're lemmings, basically.
     
  14. Kinky Ramona

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    And almost everyone else is a Christian because they're afraid of hell. I'm sure as hell not going to believe in something out of fear.
     
  15. odon

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    Have you ever read the bible cover to cover?
     
  16. TopNotchStoner

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    Me either. If hell exists, that's likely where I'll end up though. haha I have no problem with people believing in god, but I have a problem with them believing when it's for the wrong reasons.
     
  17. Kinky Ramona

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    No, I don't care to. I've read enough to know how I feel. I spent the first 14 years of my life being filled with that stuff as it was. I see no need now to give that religion any more of my time than I would any other religion. And I've no interest in reading the Qur'an either.
     
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  19. odon

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    I just ask, because a lot of us take the Bible out of context and not as a whole. I was reading something about the bible being both metaphorical and historical...and not designed to be one voice, but many.
    This could be to rationalise that the Bible is full of contradictions, hatred, and nonsense...but, they you go...I guess clever people who "believe" can rationalise anything.


    As it happens my brother was given the Quaran (yesterday) and a few other books explaining it, by some bloke at his work. He gave it to me and I was planning on reading a bit - but I got bored.
    It seems very boring...so don't recommend it anyway :rolleyes:.

    I have no real desire to have faith, but do like to atleast have a grasp of what I don't like.
     
  20. Pat__

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    I don't believe because there is no proof. Though there is a little bit of doubt in my mind still.

    I have nothing against people who follow a religion, though I dislike Christianity because it's a cop out religion that was created with the intent that God will forgive you no matter that you do. It's basically a bunch of people who believe in the word of christ yet don't follow any of the teachings and are total hypocrites and they commit counltess "sins" because their God will forgive them. I have more respect for people who actually follow the teachings of their religion (muslims for example) rather than the dime a dozen Christans who do whatever they want and believe they will be forgiven anyways
     

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