Why is the opression of women a common theme in world history?

Well? Why do you think this is?

 

because they've been oppressed for most of written history since Catholicism.

 

Catholicism has nothing to do with it, women were being oppressed long before then.

I suppose to a lot of people being the literally smaller and weaker sex meant/means that women are inferior. Fuck them

 

that girl above me is gorgeous

 

Studies show in Egypt B.C that women had voting rights, right to own land, to divorce their husband, and much more other freedoms. After Catholicism, this completely changed.

"Fuck THEM" ? By who you mean? Women? Well that was completely and utterly unnecessarily. If you are strictly a man lover - go someplace that people (as in other men) can giggle with you in peace.

 

It goes all the way back to the days of the cave men, when everything was settled by the use of force. Also, pregnant women were not able to provide for themselves in primitive economies.

Come on, you have to know that it isn't just them. How about Fundamentalist Islam? I could list several others. Eastern cultures haven't handled this any better than Western.

 

Because they are through nature the nurturers and also physically weaker. They were easy targets.

 

'Studies'? What 'studies' are you referring to? You can take ancient Athens as an example of women as inferiors. Though, of course, Sparta is a counter example to some extent.

And to clarify for Madcap, he was referring to the people who think of women as weaker because they are physically weaker, not the women themselves. Try to be a little less reactionary.

 

I believe simply that women are just more easily opressed due to 1) a weaker physical body and 2) are more sensitive emotionally. By no means do i think women are inferior in fact in many ways women are superior, but simply based on biological traits women are more easily opresed by the less emotional, physically stronger sex. As for women still being opressed today ill chalk that up to the snowball effect

 

The church has a lot to answer for! How many times have they taken the side of the opressor in war? Sorry for going off topic but the mere mention of the Catholic church makes my blood boil!

 

didnt start that way---once worshiped as the life givers---so i go with bullshit christianity

 

Studies. Historians have studied. What i refer to as I previously mentioned was Egyptians, and as a lot of us know we base a lot of our "beginnings" on that country and its people - for it is one of the oldest civilizations known to man. You can argue against with Athens and the Spartans, but I believe a lot of their teachings were mainly based on Catholicism.

I don't really need a clarification about what Madcap said, and I really do not appreciate you asking me to calm my reactions. I react as I wish, and I do not need any sort of guidance with my own thoughts.

 

I'm sorry to have to tell you this, but Athens and Sparta rose and fell long before the existence of the Catholic Church. We're talking centuries here. If you want to scapegoat Catholicism for everything, fine, but maybe you should stay out of the discussion until you've acquired at least a basic grasp of history.

I was just thinking that maybe if you'd read what he said again, as I can see how it might be confusing, you would have realized what he meant. But no -- instead you chose to see the worst possible meaning, however improbable, and react without thinking, as I said. It was helpful advice -- just calm down and don't overreact. Most people on here aren't trying to be assholes.

 

The oppression of women probably stems from the fact that women are the slower reproducers. The mother of a child always knows that the child is hers. The father can never be one hundred percent certain. The father however does not want to be deceived into caring for a child that is not his, so imposing certain restrictions on the females are in the evolutionary interest of the male. Voila. Instant oppression. "Oppression" of the female members of the troop can also be seen in chimps and in gorillas. Women's oppression probably has an evolutionary history then. Of course that doesn't make it morally right, but it is an explanation.

 

yup... me too... blood boiling and uke:and :cuss: the fiends!!!

 

The author of oppression is "vain" cause. The seeming beneficiary of patriarchy is as much an oppressed entity as any other.
It is not the problem that teaches, it is the solution. Solution is "equal dispersal"
There is no one we need blame when the only truth we know comes so easily.
Be kind to each other.

 

And about this same time in history women were being oppressed right across the Mediterranean sea from Egypt up in ancient Greece.

Damn, you beat me to it.

I'm baffled as to how somebody could get this screwed up. Is it not common knowlege that how we count years is BASED on the birth of Jesus Christ? That the year zero is (supposedly) the year Jesus was born? Obviously Catholicism, the 'original' Christian religion, did not exist until Jesus died a few decades later. Ancient Greek and Egyptian societies were born and died in the BC (before Christ) years - that is, before the year zero. All I can think is maybe she's confusing ancient Greece with Rome?

I guess I'm not adding much here other than a more specific explanation of why this person has no idea what she's talking about. I just felt compelled.


Yeah, lots of horrible things have been done in the name of Christianity. Lots of horrible things have been (and are being) carried out in the name of Islam right now, as you can see if you watch the news. The same is true of Judaism, particularly as shown in the actions of Israel, though that doesn't get nearly as much media coverage.

So why are you focusing so much anger on Catholicism (Christianity)? Pretty much every major religion has seen some major wrongdoings carried out by its proponents throughout history.

 

Probably because men being assholes is a common theme in world history.

 

Lots of people here seem to have an axe to grind with Christianity. Not defending it, just saying.

Ooh, burn.

 

personally, because it is catholicism i have been affected by..