Women in Combat

Soon, it won't be theoretical anymore. The change in US policy is going to be officially announced later today. It's only a matter of time until we will have women on the front lines.

I have mixed feelings about this. I can see both sides of the issue. If you have chosen to pursue a military career, you want all options open to you. You don't want any double standards in your way.

On the other hand, we all know the worst-case scenario. We go to war against a country that isn't full of sex-hating Islamic fundamentalists, and many of the female prisoners of war become sex slaves. Some of the ones who are held for more than nine months end up having the babies of their captors. Is society prepared to deal with this?

Worse yet, this policy change could eventually lead to women getting drafted and put into these situations against their will. Women have been excluded from military draft in the past only because they were barred from combat. Is this a worthwhile price of progress? Is this what a civilized society does? I'm not so sure.

 

Karen_J

The Taliban do rape women and children.

 

So we may not have to wait long to see the worst-case scenario.

 

How many male soldiers have been captured by the Taliban/Others? Female soldiers are still vulnerable if they leave camp, or are part of the medical team on the front-line/on patrols. I think the distances the sides fight from is so great (relatively speaking) - it is unlikely a female soldier is going to be snatched if she is fighting on the front-line. There is a small risk - but, imho, a manageable one. I don't think men are at the same risk of rape, but they are for being tortured - which is on a par, if not worse, than rape, imho.


Most, if not all, female soldiers will jump at the chance to fight on the front-line - with their male counterparts.

 

worry more about institutional rape in our own militaries.

"One in three of active-duty women serving the U.S. military have reported being the victim of sexual assault while serving, which is double the rate for civilians. Based on estimates from the Department of Defense, 19,000 servicemen and women were attacked in 2010; however, a vast majority of those violent acts don’t get reported because in the military, victims are required to report within their chain of command. As such, only eight-percent are brought to justice. Defending itself in civilian court in 2011, the Pentagon argued that sexual assault is an “occupational hazard” in the military. "

 

Hell has no fury like a woman scorned!

CBS interviewed some elite members of the Army and they said that they had a machine gunner who was a woman and they would rather have her backing them up them most of the males just because of her accuracy. They showed her toting her gun and I would almost bet she didn't weigh much more than a hundred pounds. Her gun weighing in at over fifty and she had no problem with it.

 

Good point, autophobe2e.

http://twitchfilm.com/2012/06/kirby-dick.html

 

I'm sorry, but this question doesn't sound honest to me. There's no such thing as society except for a bunch of individuals.

What it actually sounds like to me is whether individual women will be happy shedding the sheltered status provided by the same men they scorn.

You mention 'progress', but progress only means feminism. And feminists want to have their cake and eat it too. They want to have the poor-me-I'm-just-a-girl status, while at the same time spewing hatred for the men who are their enablers.

It's the old deal about being a feminist until it's time to pick up the tab. And, when it's their turn to wipe the kitchen floor squeaky clean, of course, women run scott free. Men are pigs.

My question is, which is it?

Edit: And if equality were in fact 'progress', and men had in fact been such ruthless, neanderthal, oppressors in the past; why are there so many women even hesitating, and pussyfooting when the opportunity knocks to be something other than daddy's little princess?

 

First uttered by a woman (I think)...

"I think we've been through a period where too many people have been given to understand that if they have a problem, it's the government's job to cope with it. 'I have a problem, I'll get a grant.' 'I'm homeless, the government must house me.' They're casting their problem on society. And, you know, there is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first. It's our duty to look after ourselves and then, also to look after our neighbour. People have got the entitlements too much in mind, without the obligations. There's no such thing as entitlement, unless someone has first met an obligation."

Prime minister Margaret Thatcher, talking to
Women's Own magazine, October 31 1987
http://briandeer.com/social/thatcher-society.htm

 

So True!

 

Have fun signing up your daughters with the selective service...

 

Agreed.

 

Don't they sign up themselves? Never heard of parents signing up their daughters.

 

Somehow my daughter's rape should be more alarming to me than my son's murder. And, of course, men are deemed urapable by the courts whether or not they unwillingly take it up the ass. No one will empathize anyway, just call him a fag. Better sweep it under the rug.

After all, if he's a 'real' man, he should just 'grow a pair', and take it on the chin (to protect women, no less) as men usually do.

And when my son comes back from duty, will he come back to a supportive wife? Who knows, since all the legal incentives given to women lie in divorce, alimony, welfare, skyrocketing child support, and false rape accusations.

 

I will have to say at least you don't try to hide your total disdain and hatred of women.

 

I take it that you didn't have a great relationship with your mother?

 

Cue VG in 5.....4.....3....

 

I thought it was a disdain for males.

 

And...here comes the white knight cavalry with their strawmen. Let me guess what the next strawman is...oh yeah, "you need to get laid."

 

Me: Just joking. P.S: I'm not white.