You guys seriously think there are no dangers in taking acid?

So everyone on here seems to think that LSD is this beautiful chemical and ALMOST everyone should take it, blah blah blah.

I've never taken it but I'm sure with my past experiences I could handle it, but my question is:

You all seem to think that the general population who doesn't do LSD has a misconstrued conception of how "bad" the drug is. That it makes you go crazy and shit. I know that I won't go nutso off a hit, but if these ideas of it making you go crazy are a bunch of bullshit how come when I've talked to people my father's age (and my father (they're all around 50)) a lot of them seriously seem freaked the fuck out by acid. One of the guys I talked to loves shrooms, loves pot, did acid a handful of times, but when he was telling us about that shit (acid) he seemed so scared, and advised that we watch out for that stuff like there really was some potential danger to it. He honestly had a look of fear in his eyes when he told us about it.

As for my dad, I know he could be biased in telling me not to do acid cause I'm his son, but he knows everything I've done; he knows about shrooms, e, I smoke a ton of pot (I've even smoked with him), but he still stands by the statement that acid is fucked up and I should avoid it. I could understand this mentality if I was never really into drugs, but not if he knows I've done all this shit. He has always stood by this too, even before he knew my drug history. I don't know, but what do you guys honestly think about all this? I'm definitely left a little skeptical. And don't give me a lame answer like "just try it and see for yourself." That's not really the point of my question. It's more on why you think these peole have these opinions. Oh and my dad said the trip was absolutely amazing when he did acid, but he still advises against it.

 

Acid raises the bar a bit. It's not safe for everyone. It can unleash all sorts of problems that may persist. High dose experiences can be dangerous.

That being said most things have negative potential. It's all very dependent on an individuals attitude.

 

It sounds as if you, your father, and his friend all have no direct experience with LSD research. I'm not saying you should "just try it", I'm saying just look at the published studies. LSD is the most researched psychedelic on earth.

start here http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=384552&f=117

 

Physiologically LSD is actually one of the safest substances known. The difference between an effective dose; 75-200ugs, and a potentially toxic dose is astronomical. There has only been one death ever attributed to LSD overdose, and that individual injected what was determined to be 325 milligrams, or about 3,250 average doses.
There was also an incidence of 8 people who snorted pure LSD crystal thinking it was cocaine. All eight recovered and were released from the hospital within 48 hours.

So LSD is not going to wreck your body, does not do chromosomal damage, wont cause deformed children. The only known long term side effect is HPPD and occasionally flashbacks. Both are rare relative to the number of people who have taken LSD.

All the above is very easy to confirm by researching it online.

Psychologically it is a very powerful and at times unpredictable substance. Set, where and with whom you take it, and setting, your expectations, emotional state, prior familiarization with such experiences, are very important to consider when taking it, especially for the first time.
Psychedelics have the unique capacity to reveal your innermost self and bring it to the foreground, that is usually where the risk and bad trips lie.
I have always said that LSD is the most brutally honest mirror you will ever look into. If you are not prepared to confront yourself in that way then I would say don't take it until you are ready to look into the mirror.

Research it more online and you will see that YOU are the main component that determines the outcome of any psychedelic journey.
Being an old fart like your dad I will say that the doses available today are probably half as strong or less than what we had access to. 1 hit is not likely to give you the same type of experiences your dad and his friends had.
Personally I have had much harder times from mushrooms than LSD, and often the "bad" trips are the most educational. Sadly your dad and others telling you such things helps set the stage for you to have an unpleasant experience from it.
LSD was around and being used by literally thousands of people in clinical uses and among scientist, artist, and others in those type of areas for almost 20 years before it hit the streets. It wasn't until the media caught wind of it and a few bad experiences people had, mostly due to unknown dosages and unfamiliarity with it's effects, and hyped the negative that the rash of bad trips started to be heard about. Setting (mindset) and dosage are the two biggest factors in determining the outcome, that can't be stressed enough.

Hope that helps somewhat.

 

HitMan, here's a word of advice...buy a sheet, and lick the whole thing. just trust me on this one...


oh, also, don't take me seriously

 

just dont get shitfaced and eat a hit like me
but its safe on its own

 

hahaha yea i have a friend who just the other night was pretty shitfaced off of some whiskey. he comes home to crash for the night. just before he's about to go to bed, my friend from ohio leaves my house, cause i didn't wanna trip, and heads over to his place. he ends up talking the shitfaced kid to trip acid with them, and then after they drop, they head to the store and split a bottle of robo. jesus.

 

I was in ottawa at a family gathering last easter and I met this one guy everyone thought was drunk he was a friend of my uncle's who was arrageing the festivities. Anyways, it turns out this guy actually had a bad lsd trip. He talked weird.

 

the people i hear all the negative stuff about lsd from who are very adamant and self-assured in the information they pass on have one thing in common..they've never done lsd. in my experiences..even the hard trips have proven beneficial. coming out on the other end of a difficult trip has always made me feel stronger for having had the experience. On a Side Note: i had a partner this semester who majored in chemistry who was under the impression that smoking pot makes your brain bleed out of your ears. propaganda kills brain cells.

 

You're kidding right.
God help us if your not. Whats the educational system coming to. Makes me want to cry.

 

yea when i take really big bong hits my ears bleed a little but after like 5 minutes it stops so whatev

 

Yeah... It's one of the safest drugs out there, and my experiences with it have been some of the best nights of my life, but I wouldn't recomend it unless you're truly ready for it.

Being ready for it and wanting to do it are two different things. If you don't want to do it, don't. But if you do, I can almost guarentee it will be amazing.

 

Yeah to me acid is like heroin its so good

 

It's unfortunate when bright minds refuse to harness their intellect in ways that 'society' may not approve of.

 

Try to remember that the experiences of people you know don't really matter when it comes to real facts and statistics.
I know this farmer who had a two-headed calf.
Doesn't mean that shit's common.

If you really want to know about the effects, find unbiased sources, and a lot of them.
Just my thoughts.

 

I thought I was the only one who bleeds from the ears when smoking pot...

 

From 1988 till 1995 I dosed pretty freaking regularly, daily for weeks on end at the peak times. Most folks back then would consider me to "have a bad habit" but it wasn't like a freaking addiction, I just love the crap out of lsd and back then I was fortunate to have good connections who I felt I could trust more often than not so I tended to use it frequently. Kind of like how some people tend to drink Coca Cola by the gallon on a daily basis cuz' it's just so freaking available everywhere.

One big difference between these Coke drinkers and I, I still have my teeth (Aside from a couple I split while eating lentils that hadn't been well seperated and found a small rock as a result) I'm not overweight and I don't have diabetes.

The few cases I've seen where people dont handle it well were generally due to these idgits using it like a "party drug" for one of their first times and they got overwhelmed by the experience. A couple others freaked out by being forced to face some of their own psychological skeletons they had hidden in a closet. But in all of these cases, the people involved came out just fine, some even came out with a more well adjusted perspective as they worked through those skeletons that freaked them out in the first place as part of the process.

I cant come close to calculating how many times I've dropped but it's been a bungload and while some folks find me a bit odd, people were finding me "odd" long before I tripped so that dont count in my book really.

As far as mega-dosing, it's certainly not for everybody. Foundation shaking should not be rushed towards or done without someone you feel absolutely and totally at ease with or at least be certain the environment you do this in is safe and post a guard at the door if you want the solitude for the trip (Try some and eventually you'll understand what I mean with that.) The two times I stopped and thought "Oh shit, did I do too much and "break myself" were in 89' when I and my connection split a sheet evenly, popping them like tic-tacks. I tripped my nad's off for 3 days and didnt quite feel myself for about a week but wow would I do it again? Hell's yes.
The other being when a friend was dropping some liquid in my eye after having dosed himself. One side effect of LSD is occasionally you get these involuntary chills that run through your body like a "pleasant jolt of low voltage electricity" (Thats the closest I can come to describing it if anyone else cares to redefine it feel free.) And he just so happened to have one of those chills as he dosed me from the Visine bottle causing him to clench his fingers tight, sending half the bottle running down my face. I saw Jesus, I saw other dimensions, I saw things I cant even put into words, and I saw them for 5 days straight, I even ended up locking myself in my room for 3 because I just couldn't cope with anyone. But like always, I came out the other side of the tunnel.

Having said that, let me also outline that with the current economy, with the current trends of non-socialist attitudes, of people trying to keep as much for themselves as possible without giving up whats due to others,,,

If you want to experience what it's like I strongly suggest you look into Morning Glory seeds or Hawiian baby woodrose seeds as an alternative to trusting the street market unless you know the chemist and are very confident in his skills or ethics to be providing you with what you're seeking and not some knock off or outright PCP on paper which will unscrew your mind.

Guess thats all I've got on that.

 

Well, just being a chemist isn't as much an indication of being "Bright" as it is a matter of one being able to deal with tedious formula's and long latin names while also having a stomach for that same old regurgitation of the fundamentals like we all had to cope with in High School.

Now being a good research chemist is another story entirely.

 

What's the part about changing chromasomes and stuff?

 

It doesn't, and plenty of research backs that fact up.
I just published my first "HubPage" about it;

http://hubpages.com/hub/Medical_Studies_Investigate_Drugs_LSD-25_Medicine_or_Menace

For more info check this one out;

http://hubpages.com/hub/Medical-Studies-Prove-The-Extensive-Damage-LSD-Does-To-The-Body-Mind

I address each study this idiot uses and explain it.