Danger with whipits?

Discussion in 'Other Drugs' started by LanSLIde, May 23, 2008.

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    yeah with stem cell research.. I also read a report in Scientific America with mushroom and tch brain stimuation and regeneration of cells. I cant find the links or article.. I know I wasnt seeing things though.
     
  2. BillyX

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    I have been abusing the NOS for a few years now. The only thing i can say about it is its the most addicted to a drug i have ever been in my life. i can go through 200 bulbs in a night (and if i could afford more id probably do it). My brain still works fairly well i can still function, work and so on. I would not recommend anybody to get into the state i am with the shit, its not like it even works for me very well these days. I never black out and go into a crazy trip that when i come back to earth i cant explain any more nor do i get many other effects from it any more even after a break of a few months. ill just sit there chasing that high but never quite get there yet i still feel like i wanna do it all the time :S I said to my self this weekend would be the last for a while. The only problem is i know once i get paid ill be back there buying another 10 boxes. Sorry this probably didnt answer the question posted in the OP but i just wanted to share my experience with NOS and the love/hate relationship i have with such a pointless drug (well it can be a good drug used in moderation usually with other things in your system like LSD or some DXM)
     
  3. neodude1212

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    lol yeah.

    stay away from that stuff though.
     
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    Duster and Nitrous oxide are simular in actions. They remove oxygen from your brain, that dizzy feeling you get is your brain running out of oxygen..
    You get the same high. From ARGON gas..
    If you know anything about Noble gases youll figure that out..
    Stop inhaling chemical.. and gases to get high.. its stupid...

    Gas in duster is a noble gas and can be toxic.. If you inhale it it sinks in your lungs its a heavy gas.. You body naturally tips over to get air or youll sufficate, making your lungs lower than your mouth or nose you fall over to breath, Your body will convulse to push gas out of your lungs to be replaced by breathing air..
    You can only convulse so much before you die for lack of oxygen. If the electric circuit of your brain is tired from being wipped out, the chances of it restarting your breathing is gona get shorter and shorter. CFC gas was a popular inhalent as is many refrigerant gases til it too was phased out.
    Dichlorofluoroethane and others.. freon.. ect..
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorofluorocarbons
     
  5. J-psychonaut

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    the only real danger from whippits is passing out and cracking your skull, ask a doctor, I have.
     
  6. MeatWagon499

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    it's a common misconception that nitrous gets you high by killing brain cells. im not disputing the fact that it can kill brain cells at all, but it gets you high by acting on your NMDA brain receptors. it is technically in the same class as PCP, Ketamine, and DXM, since they all act on the NMDA receptors in different ways.
     
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    Nitrous oxide deprives cells of oxygen, They dont really kill them in fact, But other heavy gases are used in diving to lower the level of oxygen for deeper diving. The lose of conscience is often tested by divers with heavy gas to deprive their brains of oxygen as they try to recover from controled diving accidents its very rare they do this. Its very dangerous and only done by professionals...
    Learn more about inhalent before you go huffing stuff to get high... The same gases that get you high are already present in the atmosphere. Theres no real reason to concentrate them to get buzzed...
    Inhaling nitrous and other refereant gases can freeze the lungs..
    Exotic diving gases http://www.techdiver.ws/exotic_gases.shtml
     
  8. maddhatter

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    That's not true at all. Only if you do not take in any oxygen with the nitrous can it do brain damage. But if you do it properly it's 100% safe.
     
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    if you do this () much, youll be fine, unless you fall over and hit your head, which will happen, but if you do this () much, then your screwed and will be a vegetable. the prob is, once you do this () much, you will quickly forget all that and want to keep doing it, because you think its safe, when it is not. nitros is the hardest thing to set and keep a limit on. but fun at times.
     
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    Its why bats hang upside down... lol, To rid the lungs of harmful gases.
    If you huff heavy gas like freon, or nitrous oxide. invert yourself and breath.. this will rid the lungs of the heavy gas thats pocketed in the lungs..
    not to bring god into it, but he didnt intend us to be breathing gases like that. Or we wouldnt tip over at all to get air.. since you do tip over it be safe to do it where your wouldnt bump :conehead:you whittle head...

    @ Maddhatter, this is true with all drugs and chemicals..

    Even NITROX breathing gas for diving is harmful over long periods of time. Using breathing gas alot will cause cell and tissue damage. It also makes your mouth dry and sandy feeling, Much like unfiltered Nitrous over a period of time. Nitrous oxide cartridges in Wipits isnt filtered. It should be filtered for inhalation.. By passing the gas thru filters its less harmful on the lungs. Also regulates temperture.. But nitrous can be inhaled at cold temps...
    Im not knockin you guys, just information.. I LOVE N2O.. just as much as you guys..
     
  11. The Mushroom Man

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    Alright, by reading many of the replies I have noticed quite a large amount of confusin about Nitrous Oxide, or N2O. Firstly, N2O is lighter than air, as its molecular weight is simply that of 2 parts nitrogen one part oxygen, or 22 amu's. Air is a combination of about 70% nitrogen, 20% oxygen and 10% other gases, which would make the molecular weight far more than 22. Second, the high produced from N2O is not from oxygen deprivation (mostly). An easy way to demonstrate this is to fill a balloon with air to about the same size as a whippit would fill it (about 1 big breath). Then, breathe in and out of this 3 or 4 times. Next, fill a balloon to the same size using N2O and breathe that in and out 3 or 4 times. You will find that the N2O gets you high, the air does not. Thirdly, it is very, very hard to kill yourself using N2O. Unless you suffocate (by not breathing oxygen for too long), freeze your lungs (by being a dumbass and inhaling straight from a whippit or tank) or have an allergic reaction, N2O will little harm to your body. Inhaling N2O for 30 seconds will do as much harm to your body as not breathing oxygen for 30 seconds. Any "dead brain cells" as a result of the actual compound N2O are negligibly small. The compounds in other inhalants, such as dust-off, freon, gasoline, etc. are very volatile and do massive damage to the brain and body as a while. N2O, on the other hand, is an inert gas that does not hurt your body beyond it's replacing oxygen for a small amount of time. Also, the N2O used for food is the safest kind besides medical grade to use for recreation. It is clean enough to be in contact with food for long periods of time, and the small amount of contaminants present in food-grade N2O doesn't make it very harmful to use. One of my favorite sayings is "everything in moderation," and this applies to all drugs, including N2O. It is a very safe drug to use provided you use common sense in dealing with it. So, enjoy the benefits of it, but don't do anything stupid. treat it with respect, as you should all rugs, and it will be good to you.

    The Mushroom Man
     
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    Dust off Gas is inert.. "Canned air" is usually tetrafluoroethane, as you mention, and Its used to displace the oxygen. Tetrafluoroethane is pretty inert.. But can be contaminated with other gases so it makes it dangerous to inhale from computer cleaner cans.

    As it warms in the lungs it can degrade and become corrosive to lung tissue.
    so Im correcting the inert..
     
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    dust off is a very dangerous inhalant. "Vapor [from dust off] reduces oxygen available for breathing and is heavier than air" -http://www.sisweb.com/referenc/msds/dustoff.pdf
    the vapor, being heavier than air, will fill your lungs and sink to the bottom of your lungs where it will remain temporarily. since it sinks in your lungs it will displace oxygen and will make it hard to get out of your lungs reducing the amount of oxygen you can get in your system, leading to brain damage, "temporary alteration of the heart’s electrical activity with irregular pulse, palpitations, or inadequate circulation, or abnormal
    kidney function as detected by laboratory tests. Gross overexposure may be fatal." -http://www.sisweb.com/referenc/msds/dustoff.pdf
    nitrous, on the other hand, is probably one of the safest inhalants out there. it is lighter than air, the gas is inert, and will cause you no harm if you use it safely (make sure you get some oxygen in your system, if you dont then you will cause damage to your brain from oxygen debt). although, its effects (confusion/disorientation, hallucinations, higher pain thresh hold, euphoria) may cause you to do something silly, or utterly fucking stupid. one example of doing something silly is doing a whippet in a k mart parking lot and then getting up from where you are sitting, spinning in circles for about a minute, and then hugging a tree. im sure anyone can think of something that is completely stupid that someone has done while their in an altered state of conciousness.
    seriously, nitrous is completely safe it you use it with a bit of common sense and maybe some help from your friends.
     
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    Tetrafluoroethane Aerosol Spray is used for asthma inhalers is the same gas in Dust off. http://www.inchem.org/documents/cicads/cicads/cicad11.htm
    Fluorocarbons are harmful. As it is a heavy gas and hard to expel from the lungs, Is does cause heart arrhythmias, probable a very bad idea to experiment with it..

    Formula N: Tetrafluoroethane (common name- hystofreeze 2000)
    Tetrafluoroethane is a colorless gas when released; however, it is a cryogenic liquid with an ether-like odor when compressed. It is suspected to be harmful by inhalation. Chronic exposure may cause reproductive damage, and high levels may cause CNS damage. Contact with liquid may cause skin burns. Asphyxiant (inhaling will fill lungs with heavier-than-oxygen gas, and will cause suffocation) at high concentrations.

    Molecular formula: C2H2F4

    Formula S: Difluoroethane (common name- Freon, Freon 152(A))
    While rarely used, Difluoroethane is a refrigerant and aerosol propellant. It's appearance is a colorless liquid when pressurized, and it is very cold. Not surprisingly, this highly flammable gas is an asphyxiant (if you inhale this, your lungs will fill with the heavier-than-oxygen gas and cause you to suffocate).

    Molecular structure: C2H4F2
     
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    Amen to that Watson boy! And yes, a valid and appreciated point about "canned air," you have done your research. Research is good! Just good to know that people look stuff up and don't just stay ignorant. Ah, and yes, thank you for revealing to me the heavier-than-oxygen aspect of the conversation. I thought everyone just meant heavier-than-air, which nitrous is not, but it is heavier than oxygen. It is advisable to take many long, large breaths of air after a whippet to help clear the N2O from the lungs and provide the body with oxygen.


    The Mushroom Man
     
  16. J-psychonaut

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    Dusto, as we call it, is definently bad...kinda fun but very bad!!! Best to stay away. Whippits are not anything like other inhalants, well they are inhaled but besides that. Nitrous is way more fun and perfectly safe as long as you are sitting down and not inhaling from a tank directly. Nitrous is considered a dissasociative like pcp, dxm, and K.
     
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    Because Dust Off gas is heavy, it pockets in the lungs, its also Corrosive to lung tissue... It Should be avoided.
     
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    agree to avoiding dusto, I only tried it a coulple time when drunk and stupid but never again. I watched a friend take a hit and fall down and fish out on the floor. gross.
     
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    Well there are some death reported, It should be noted that dust off is not a totally clean chemical as much as the product says it is.. Its contaminated with methane.
    While it can be harful its had its uses in medicine.. To other halogens/flourocarbons ect.. But in the Operating rooms the gas is regulated with breathable air.. And the Gas is only used to displace oxygen so the patient is instantly out, as the other seditve takes effect, as then oxygen is placed back into the patients lungs and is catatonic, or unconscious.. The gas may be futher used if the patient begins to recover and this too comes from the human brain rewiring itself to restart, Patient must be closely observed by anesthesia team so not to wake up in the middle of a operation..
    But agian its not the source of total anesthesia IV drugs are mainly used for that.

    As I said previouly that Argon is also a "Narcotic" noble gas, But its also heavy and many probable didnt see this.. On Jay Leno, a expert came out and Jay Leno inhaled Argon gas.
    Jays voice became deep and I believe he became dizzy.. Jay had to bend over to expel the gas from his lungs.
     
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    whippits are not toxic unlike lighter gas or something, the only brain damage whippets cause is lack of oxygen so combat that by taking in a hit then leaving it for a few nice long and deep breaths. do whippets while sitting down because the sudden rush can make you fall over.
     

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