Desexualization and Nudism and the falloff of popularity

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First time ever " Nicky x" and "sanity" have been in the same sentence !
Nicky x

 

I don't know the name of the beaches , my job is to sit in the car and look pretty, lol. I asked Robby and yes we've been to Kerminihy but the beaches further west are more deserted. Check out website > en.plages.tv < for good info on french beaches. The Atlantic coast is awesome. My eldest daughter was conceived on the beach at Soulac sur Mer [obviously one of my favourite places]
Nicky x

 

That one always makes me giggle [giggle 'cos I never take offence].
Nicky x

 

LOL.

Welcome to the internet. Where nude beach boners and screwing in the weeds are “normal.” And horny men just eat it all up.

 

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Nicky x

 

Yeah, you and JH are mostly about sex first and being naked in nature second. Folks like us will never see eye to eye.

But your life experience is what your life experience is and I’m not going to disrespect it. Having said that, organizations such as the AANR and The Naturist Society (as well as myself) are strongly against all of the kinds of the things folks like you stand for. The human body is a wonderful thing and doesn’t need sexuality attached to it to be worthy of attention. All I see from you and JH are that you like sex. Boring!!!

 

Thanks for explaining your views.
Nicky x

 

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That last part losing its popularity is absolutely a big fact! In the 70s it was gaining popularity and almost normal. What happened??? I believe it was a couple of rotten eggs who destroyed it for all! Women and families became very uneasy with the rumors or firsthand seeing or experiencing something. Will it come back??? It would certainly be nice to see but I bet it will never come back. LGBTQ is one group that would be a problem. YES I AM GAY! yet I feel the LGBTQ with Pride functions that are very sexualized and over the top personalities will destroy the atmosphere for the straight and timmed.

 

Joseph and Granite, I agree. Every time someone comes to naturism with a sexual agenda, it drives away people who don't want to see any such thing. It means that we can't be honest if we try to say "nudity isn't sexual" when for plenty of people (pretty vocal ones!) it plainly is. I suppose they'd respond "Well, the prudes can just take a hike" but the people who leave first will be the women and anyone who has children. That leaves the adult men, some of us wailing about how our wives won't participate. But try and tell people to discuss their sexual interests somewhere else, and you're talking to the wind. If there's nudity, it's just irresistible to them.

 

Indeed.

Those who lament the depopularization of club nudism as compared to the 70s while simultaneously supporting open sexual activity at nudist venues really need look no further than a mirror for an explanation. Basically the same subset from that generation that laments the loss of the acceptance of sexual harassment in the workplace. Was so much better back in the days when you were able to pat your hot little secretary on the ass while telling her to go fetch you a cup of coffee, wasn’t it?

 

Why must you separate nudism from your other interests? If you were to post about doing these things nude, I might find you interesting. This is where the heart of nudism and naturism is, IMHO. Doing things you like to do anyway, except naked. This is where things like world naked gardening day, the wildly popular WNBR and nude hiking day on the summer solstice come from.

I challenge the entire premise of this thread insofar as I do not buy into the idea that nudism and naturism are less popular than they once were. In fact, I think it’s quite the opposite and naturist folks no longer feel as if we need official clothing optional venues to be naked. The gates are open so to speak and we can be nude out in the real world if we’re smart about how we go about it.

 

I think this is a broad generalization that doesn't fit "all" the people you are talking about. Placing people into a bucket or categorizing them isn't the right way to make a point.

 

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I suggest there are three factors other than those mentioned which are worth considering. Firstly, that people in general are less likely to want to be members of anything, and given so many organisations require joining online, a fear someone could find out, such as a parent. Secondly location of many places. Thirdly, phone cameras, the fear of being photographed with little or nothing on can be enough to put someone off (see the decline in Europe of topless sunbathing which coincided with widespread availability of phone cameras as an example).

 

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Straightma1e-

Every single thing you've said is by far the most honest, rational, relevant, genuine, and true answer on this entire thread. If both more nudists and non-nudists alike had your attitude and insight, the world would be a much happier place. Anyone who totally de-sexualizes OR totally sexualizes nudity is doing themselves and others a great disservice, as well as denying certain aspects of their own humanity.

Over the years I've read various stories from older males who used to competitively swim fully nude back when that was in fashion, as well as those who had to line up fully nude or in their underwear for group physical exams at their school. Most of these guys all agreed that there WAS some small or subtle degree of sexual tension in the room, in most cases. When you've got a dozen or more people seeing you naked or nearly naked, as you either stand there for roll call or have your body's most intimate parts examined, how can there NOT be???

Sometimes I think that we modern humans are too proper and civilized for our own good.

 

I've struggled with this thread for some time. I suppose I'm setting myself up for a slam of some sort. But here goes...

I'm sticking by JH. It was supposed to be an exchange of ideas."This may not be black or white- help me sort through the shades of gray...". Nope!
I was going to share some personal experiences from my younger single years, which were not overtly sexual but contained an element of spontaneous boy-girl "connection", but I don't have the energy so I'll leave it at that. I'm male, of German ancestry, analytical to a fault, and yet am flabbergasted by the black-white, me right -you wrong, "my way or the highway" tone!

Of all people, "nudists" should be the most tolerant folks around. But then again they don't ALL lurk around and sometimes post on a forum like this. And that includes... Me! Scary.....

In case you haven't noticed, MANY aspects of society and culture have changed in the last half century! Maybe recreational nudity is just being carried down the river of time with everything else!

I've been a nudist of some sort all of my life. Sometimes it's just fun to be nude! I've also enjoyed and preferred MANY things with female companionship. Nude recreation being just one of them. Why would there be the least surprise that the trust and openness of being nude just might "facilitate" boy-girl stuff that was bound to happen anyway?!

I might try an experiment: go to the love sex area and post my not-really-sexual nude beach experiences, and see if I get told to come back here!

 

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