It would be a great thing if all the communists were wiped out overnight

I lived in NYC for a long time. They deserve the mayor for whom they vote. The City will suffer if he is elected.

 

Right….Democratic socialism has provided a lot more happy and productive societies….Denmark, Portugal and Sweden for example, than either predatory capitalism…. US Republicans, or authoritative communism ….USSR. My grandparents lived the nightmare of the T golden age. Slave wages and working conditions, severed limbs and digits with no safety rules in the woodworking industry. The oligarchs lived in mansions and cruised on yachts meanwhile…sound familiar? Perhaps reading the works of economists like Lester Thurow and Robert Reich would expand your horizons.

 

Denmark became "Socialist" in the period of 1970s-1990s. Denmark was founded in the 10th century under King Gorm the Old. "Socialism" (or communism lite) had nothing to do with developing Denmark. They have only been running the country for 30+ years out of their 1,000 year history so, they have ownership of 3% of Danish rule. Similarly Portugal started in the socialist direction around 1974 with the Carnation Revolution. Portugal, in case you're interested, was founded in 1143 and king Henriques was its first king. So, commie/socialist management of Portugal is 3.4% of its existence. Sweden didn't become "socialist" until the 1970-1990 period (seems to be a theme with Scandinavia). Sweden was founded in 1523. So, 5.7% of Swedish rule has been commie/socialist. All these countries will eventually go bankrupt when they run out of "Other people's money."

FYI, Almost all of human history occurred before 1969.Fact.

What ONE good thing has communism created? We can ignore the 100+ million people it has killed for the moment.

Maybe you could try again.


*For the record, I am not arguing the communists should be wiped out.

 

Of course communism and socialism are not the same thing. The royalty that rUled much of Europe for so long is hardly an example of a shining light of a fair and just society. Oligarchy is hardly a shining light of successful government.

And it is the collective efforts of working people who generate economic wealth….not the few who because of inherited wealth pull the strIngs. The term “commie” is not useful in dismissing highly successful examples of democratic socialism. I grew up in Wisconsin and remember the ranting of our deranged Senator who indeed had no shame.

Many of our Indian societies provide a lot better for their tribal members than those off -reservation communities that have followed the extractive industries to empty towns. I also lived in a company town that had a long history of sketchy concern for its workers. And many Tribal Nations have a lot longer history than any example of royalty and have watched their sacred sites and culture turned into patios and parking lots.

 

(to post 20) WRONG. He's a democratic socialist, not a communist as you describe.

 

The US employment rights, paid holiday allowances are about the worst in the western world ( compared to Canada and many European countries. ) The health system is also well below the standards of these other countries as well. The US compared to Europe, Scandinavia, Australia, New Zealand and Canada is like a third world country.

 

Freedom in the free world always comes at the price of slavery. When the Berlin Wall fell, the price of freedom shot through the roof until, today, Donald Duck has declared war on Disney and the Muppets, making the damn commies look more appealing every day.

Just listing all the people that man is responsible for killing, will get you censored.

 

Please list those killed. Why would you be censored for telling the truth? On the other hand, the list of those killed by Communists during the 20th century is greater than 120 million and well documented (Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Hussein, Castro, etc.).

 

Exactly, we have very good figures for how many people the commies have killed, but our own are heavily censored. I've already been censored, from every major search engine, which costs a few thousand dollars more to do.

The higher Wall Street climbs, the faster they censor everything. In Florida, they censored the common dictionary and encyclopedia, for containing graphic content.

 

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These days, the Tea Party calls each other communists, and anybody who dares to use a dictionary.

 

The so called free enterprise system kills or ruins the lives of millions every single day. The US is very much a supporter of this unbalanced system. Communist Dictatorships are not a true representation of Socialism ( nor true communism for that matter. The rich get richer sucking the blood of most people on this planet no matter what political system rules.

 

The wealthy and powerful could not care less what anybody thinks of them, so long as no one is ever allowed to share their words and play nice.

 

So, we should try communism?

Please list examples from history of successful communist regimes.

 

Why not try fixing Democracy instead? Communism doesnt work either. Why is there always this seeming eiither or when it comes to it? Hitler and Stalin were both a pair of complete psychopathic villains but Mussolini was comparitively not quite as bad so lets go with that peice of shit. Just because Communism has proven to be an unhealthy system doesnt mean ipso facto Democracy is not a bit of a steaming pile of shit that could actually do with a bit more socialistic humanism and a fairer system without the ridiculously ever growing divide between the rich and tge poor. Nobody is wearing a fucking white hat in this game of cowboys and indians.

 

Propose a better solution. Communism is not it.

 

I didnt suggest communism was a better solution. Democracy needs reformation because it has been co-opted by a very small per centage of the population and it is corrupted and controlled too much to actually properly represent the needs of the majority of its populations. The ideals of Democracy are not wrong but it is not abiding by them when there is so much disparity between the rich and the poor and all points in between. The lower middle classes are being put to the sword more than anytime in my lifetime and as you go down the economic ladder it is getting much worse for more and more people. Deal with this divide by taking more money off the high end and less off the lower - trickle down is a bloody lie it is much more like hoovering up. For every business expansion there are dozen closures and fewer people gainfully employed. Afforedable housing is not really afforedable for the majority of the population. Living wages or minimum wage cannot pay the bills without going into debt. People use credit cards and bank loans just to feed their families. Is this type of Democracy working. How about a fairer tax system? How about true living wages that reflect the rising costs of everything? How about the insanity of the global inflation bullshit. We are all being played like suckers at a fixed slot machine.

 

You can't fix stupid, while democracy has become, "The Pursuit Of Life, Liberty, And Money! Already the computers are making half of all Wall Street transactions, and we need to give them a sense of humor, so they can tell the existing banks and oligopolies to share their words and play nice.

Terminator Robots are our friends!

 

The happiest countries in the world are Finland, Denmark, Iceland, and Sweden.
America ranks 23rd.
They're Socialist Democracies. We're a Fascistic kleptocratic kakistocracy.

 

Ironically the US is a very bad advertisement for the superiority of democracy over other forms of rule. There are plenty of other democratic countries that are imperfect but much better than the American Chaos and inequality.