1000 Facebook "Friends" Ignore Woman's Suicide

I tried to kill myself after my 2nd tour in iraq.. but I was really doing it on a dare.. I dont know how you explain those things... I really didnt give a fuck at that point , seemed like many things missed couldnt be replaced , felt like Id just go with them,,, that if I didnt die in iraq maybe I was to nutty to live here, I tied this thing up and my wife was in another room actually.. Insha'Allah I went and jumped off this thing with cord around my neck, and I said "dont think I wouldn't" with all intention to do it, the 4'' piece of lumber broke under my 160lbs,. impossible !!! as Ive tested them over and over again... with more weight. only as Act of Allah could do such a thing. I was there with enough time the light to set in. I was more awake and refreshed from the experience than I went in with. It like drug experiences was forever after. It seems from this though, the order of heaven was clearer, not that Im preaching. But it was an instant of mountains running streams and meadows and I just felt my presence take me over them and back , there was nothing violent about it,, ?unlike some drug experiences where the void is resistant .. It was very welcome,, Even though I went there in rage...
as I was coming to ,it was clearing telling me to return as with many LAD experiences my work or life was not finished here.

 

I've come to the conclusion: Some did try and help (asking for her addy/ tel No.), others didn't, others mocked others and some where not online at the time.
1000 people didn't ignore her. I'm not sure if she could have been saved.
Were there people who knew where she lived, where close by and they did nothing?
P.S: Her mum was probably a little harsh but it's understandable.

 

Saying that 1000 people ignored her is just the media's way of sensationalizing the event.

Why though is it the responsiblity of those (the number is irrelevant) people to have stopped her or to have tried to talk her out of it?

The blame is always placed on those who "didn't see the signs." Fuck that, nobody forced her to do what she did, it's her own damn fault.

That would be like someone crashing their car into another one. The driver dies and everyone blames the passenger who lives...

 

This is very true.

 

This is pretty true. I mean I have like 170 facebook friends, I pay attention to things on my newsfeed from like 15 of them.

 

I must admit, I have some depressing buggers on mine and I can't help but to completely ignore everything they say.

They threat things so often that the severity is lost.

 

So anyone who is on any online friends list of anyone who commits suicide, and they don't do anything to intervene, is automatically guilty of neglect and ignoring the person?

Get real, that's responsibility displacement. Every individual is ultimately responsible for themselves only (and any young children they might have), not their friends.

 

The worst type is the women who constantly go on about their failed relationships/broken heart and how god awful all men are.
I'm not exactly thinking "lets hook up"...only insane men would hook up with that type of emotional train wreck. Jeez, become a nun, ffs.

 

This Is One Of The Few Aspects Of Getting Older I Like....

Nowdays I Have Zero Tolerance For "Drama Queens", If Somebody Has A Genuine

Issue, Whatever It May Be, I Will Do My Damnest To Help Them, If It's Just

A "Hey Look At Me I Crave Attention", They Can Get Stuffed...



Cheers Glen.

 

I can definitely understand that. Its very like the boy who cried wolf. Although I think in most cases, those types of people never actually do it anyway. Which is probably why in the small amount of cases where somebody like that has gone on to do it, nobody has taken any notice. Before both of my suicide attempts, I never told anyone beforehand that I was thinking of doing it, I just did it.

I have told a small amount of people about suicidal thoughts ive had, but never actually "im going to kill myself right now", or anything like that. If I was genuinely going to do that, I wouldnt tell anyone, or maybe someone I was really close to. The people who constantly say it, I can definitely see why a lot of people ignore them.

 

I'm surprised to hear you use this in a negative context GLEN.


I'm sorry, I just had to.

 

I can relate with what you say, actually.

I almost feel bad about ignoring those who do 'cry wolf', because you just never know, but ultimately they usually pipe down once they get the required attention.

I could never be so open about such personal feelings.

 

Is it wrong to ignore such people? Perhaps, perhaps not. But it is definitely understandable. Its very easy to class such people as attention seekers, because in most cases, that's exactly what they are. But that also means the minority of people who do that who eventually go on to kill themselves are not taken seriously, or ignored.

I do find it very hard to be open with people. Im also aware I can be quite depressing to be around, so I'll try and tone down how Im feeling, because I dont like dragging other people down by being so depressed. I guess you could say if they're real friends, then it wouldn't annoy them, but I still get the feeling that I would be doing so. I dont lie, just sometimes tone down the level of how upset I am. I also think that unless you feel very close to someone, then there's no need for them to know intimate details about you anyway.

 

I think a lot of people feel that way. I think many are afraid to speak up for fear that they think others will think they're crazy or imbalanced or whatever, it's something that isn't largely talked about but should be.

Many people experience depression at different times throughout life and I think that making it more "mainstream" (for lack of a better term) would really just let a lot of people know that it's common and that it's okay and that it will pass.

Being in a severe depression one might be unable to use their own logic and might consider suicide whereas they never would have before. Having it out there and having people talk about it at the very least lets people know that suicide needn't be an option.

 

I sometimes wonder though, the environment the suicidal person is in. Maybe its not them thats seeking attention, but to escape those that seek their attention. Have you ever just had enough of someones shit, that the only way you can escape it is to get drunk, drugs, blow your head off?, these all come to mind...

Im not saying that the case with this person. But Im disappointed in the media making a celebrity out of someones tragedy.. This is a personal issue , all her subjects on the FB database should be deleted and the issue become mote. There are many celebrities thats make the news day after day of suicide and accidental death. media is fueled by morbidity, and scandal ,, FB is a scandal the media continues to use to keep the sheeple busy while real topics on civil rights get crushed... Someone wants to kill themselves to they should have that right , or seek help on a different platform not FB . but someone wants to smoke a joint and get gunned down by the Police.... Which is more suicidal?.,.

Social sites cant be held responsible for someone logging in Annon from a droid and saying "kill yourself" .. They may not even need to say it at all.. could misread someone signature. They can be pretty nasty @ times to.

 

I can understand both sides of this. In an ideal world we would all react when someone we know or interact with is in pain. We would all want to do that. On the other hand, it is very hard to judge a hoax from a cry for help or a serious attempt.

In my past I have attempted suicide (something I am happy to say I have now worked through). If friends had reacted every time I suggested I was thinking that way, they would have been done little else. On the other hand, had they done so perhaps it wouldn't have got to the real attempt.

What I am trying to express (very poorly) is that what is the right course of action is almost impossible to judge without know this womans whole history.

 

I know from experience that people who want to and mean to commit suicide just do it they never bullshit around and say "oh I'm going to kill myself" they just do it and you find them one day. The girl on Facebook had more than likely said it a few times and her friends didn't believe her. It's a very sad story.

 

I agree that it makes more sense that if you were going to off yourself, you'd probably stay quiet about it. I just have to say...BEG of everyone who ever ever reads this post, for the sake of your loved ones, IF you do ever take that final plunge, please for the love of all that is holy, PLEASE leave a note. I've got a friend who passed away and to this day we still aren't sure if it was suicide or murder and that's a horrible question to be left with.

 

I disagree, not in all cases people who ask for help are bullshitting.
I have seen in some cases where people just want their story heard before they pass or use the internet as sort of a suicide note.
Yes there are drama queens,but their pretty easy to point out, even that said should not be completely ignored just in case.

I know when I asked for help here on the forums I had every intention of causing myself severe harm with possible death, fortunately I was talked down and convinced to go to the hospital that I then did go.

 

I thought you were bullshitting at first when I read your post. I hadn't read any of your other posts before and I just thought you were a guy with a strange sense of humour. I'm sorry I responded so ignorantly at first. I really just thought it was a weird joke (like maybe you had had a bad day or something) until after a few more posts.